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Old 08-14-24 | 07:09 PM
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Texas sues General Motors, alleging illegal selling of driver data | CNN Business
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Slightly torn here, because on the one hand what GM did absolutely deserves punishment but on the other Ken Paxton isn’t exactly a paragon of virtue and ought to be serving time himself.
Old 08-14-24 | 09:03 PM
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Good, data sales should be only opt-in by the person who generated the data IMO.
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GM sells out on their customers ...

Hope it was worth the 30 pieces of silver.
Shameful...
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Originally Posted by swajames
Slightly torn here, because on the one hand what GM did absolutely deserves punishment but on the other Ken Paxton isn’t exactly a paragon of virtue and ought to be serving time himself.
Even a blind squirrel can find a nut I'm surprised no other AG has gone after GM for this
Old 08-15-24 | 12:16 PM
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I'm surprised no other AG has gone after GM for this
Probably just not a strong enough case....there's evidence on both sides. It is true that corporations do not have an unlimited right to collect and sell personal driving data, but it is also just as true that driving is legally a privilege, not a Constitutional right, and drivers do not have an absolute right to unlimited privacy behind the wheel.

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Probably just not a strong enough case....there's evidence on both sides. It is true that corporations do not have an unlimited right to collect and sell personal driving data, but it is also just as true that driving is legally a privilege, not a Constitutional right, and drivers do not have an absolute right to unlimited privacy behind the wheel.
This is about deceptively selling data. There aren't "both sides" to this. People suffered harm because, among other things, insurers were raising rates on drivers who did not know GM had sold them out.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Probably just not a strong enough case....there's evidence on both sides. It is true that corporations do not have an unlimited right to collect and sell personal driving data, but it is also just as true that driving is legally a privilege, not a Constitutional right, and drivers do not have an absolute right to unlimited privacy behind the wheel.
Freedom of travel is a right, as is speech....I don't see you hand writing letters? Tech changes and protections need to be extend to modern methods of doing things
Old 08-15-24 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by swajames
Slightly torn here, because on the one hand what GM did absolutely deserves punishment but on the other Ken Paxton isn’t exactly a paragon of virtue and ought to be serving time himself.
My reaction when i saw the headline:

Old 08-15-24 | 01:37 PM
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You should see the stuff LexisNexis has and requests through FOIA.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Probably just not a strong enough case....there's evidence on both sides. It is true that corporations do not have an unlimited right to collect and sell personal driving data, but it is also just as true that driving is legally a privilege, not a Constitutional right, and drivers do not have an absolute right to unlimited privacy behind the wheel.
It's not a constitutional issue because the constitution protects you from government overreach, not from companies.

This could be a violation of consumer protection statutes, however.

I hope we ramp up consumer privacy protection x10 as a result of this.
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Preliminary ask to keep the debate / politics content out of this thread
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Originally Posted by Margate330
GM sells out on their customers ...

Shameful...
I am not surprised. Sham move by GM
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