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I don't agree, I think this is a great looking car:
I agree. I think they are great looking. I have a neighbor who has a white one. Not necessarily the best color for the Panamera IMO but the car itself looks very good. He has white wheels on it though which don't do it any favors.
those are definitely good pics of it, yea i really don't have many complaints from that lol... but from most angles it's still this big bloated frankenstein 911 creation
You can find a bad angle for any car in a picture. In person I think they look great...I see a lot of them
The Panamera is actually shorter than the new 5 Series, it's still very much a midsize sedan. Its main rival from Mercedes is not the S-Class but the AMG GT 4 Door which is based on an E-Class.
European classifications are different from the US but the Panamera is right in line with the E, 5, and A6 dimensionally.
It's way better than the 1st then for sure, but it doesn't do it for me in person.
They look fine but they don't stay true to the concept hence why some angles look weird.
Nothing beats this in terms of front-end design and overall proportions
S-Class SWB is 5 inches longer and its wheelbase is almost 7 inches longer. It's not even close.
The only S-Class that's shorter than the Panamera is the coupe from the last generation, and only by exactly 1 inch.
Yeah thats not even close, thanks for fact checking. Too bad we have to constantly do that around here.
I agree that the Panamera isn't that great looking of a car. The second gen is much improved, but it does nothing for me. The first gen is just tragic. Not sure if they had the same designer, but I see alot of similarities between the 996 911, the first Cayenne, and the first Panamera. Lots of swoopy lines and bad proportions.
I say we use the example of cars that are actually front mid engined otherwise EVERY RWD car is mid engined. The accepted standard is shock towers vs crank pulley positions btw....
Originally Posted by Striker223
Okay then lets view it from the angle of what is commonly associated as mid engine, that being rear/mid and where those engines are located then.
Lets start with the most common options like the C8
Originally Posted by SW17LS
I drove a 2024 with active suspension. Its nothing like an S Class, much firner, louder and sportier. As it should be,]
If thats "the standard" that should be documented and easy for you to show us.
I actually think the latest ones are beautiful.
This video defines front mid-engine as the engine located behind the front axle.
Jump to 00:03'41".
AFAIK, there simply is no international agreed standard definition for front mid-engine, hence we must not be so petty and small minded with little details.
This video defines front mid-engine as the engine located behind the front axle.
Jump to 00:03'41".
AFAIK, there simply is no international agreed standard definition for front mid-engine, hence we must not be so petty and small minded with little details.
There is no agreed upon standard that was my point. Thats why I challenged Striker to please provide us with the standard he is using to say Lexus and reviewers are wrong (it doesn't exist)
The point is that the engine is placed farther back for handling and the result is a tighter cabin.