Help choose a new car for my parents
#1
Help choose a new car for my parents
Considering they just bought out the lease on their 2022 Santa Fe Limited Hybrid a couple of months ago, I was not planning on doing this research anytime soon. But as the wise oracle Mike Tyson once said, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face." In this case, that punch came in the form of a broadside and rollover on Monday afternoon. My mom is ok, aside from being incredibly sore because seatbelts hurt like hell (though obviously far better than the alternative), and getting pulled out through the windshield isn't exactly easy on an elderly body either. But now they don't have a car.
They absolutely loved the Santa Fe, but probably wouldn't get another for 2 main reasons: They can't stand the looks of the new one (ironic since apparently Hyundai meant to target older buyers with the redesign), and my dad is in between spine surgeries (totally unrelated to the accident, he was not in the car at the time) and has extremely limited mobility for at least the next year. So ease of entry/exit is absolutely paramount, and it's actually a little easier for him to get into our Q7 than their deceased Santa Fe because the door is taller, the step-in height is lower, and the floor is utterly flat to the sill.
My initial thought is to push them to lease an EV, since there are some pretty good incentives for doing so, they do mostly short trips and though they like long driving vacations, they're unlikely to do so in the near future. They do have an unused 50A circuit in their garage, but are unlikely to need an L2 charger. That would give them the opportunity to re-evaluate their needs in 2-3 years. But that said, everything is on the table.
My idea of their criteria:
They're not really premium/luxury customers, and a direct replacement of their Santa Fe would be $47k, so kinda targeting that general area--call it $40-60k OTD if purchasing, obviously <$400 lease payments are ideal as well.
So far I've come up with some ideas that, while I may not be a fan myself, might be good options. I have not physically looked at anything, so I don't know if they actually are.
Though I definitely expect to get some pushback on the last few as being way too physically large.
I've also come up with some more wacky ideas:
So I know this isn't exactly where most of our enthusiast minds are typically focused, but I'll definitely welcome any insights on the above or new ideas in general.
They absolutely loved the Santa Fe, but probably wouldn't get another for 2 main reasons: They can't stand the looks of the new one (ironic since apparently Hyundai meant to target older buyers with the redesign), and my dad is in between spine surgeries (totally unrelated to the accident, he was not in the car at the time) and has extremely limited mobility for at least the next year. So ease of entry/exit is absolutely paramount, and it's actually a little easier for him to get into our Q7 than their deceased Santa Fe because the door is taller, the step-in height is lower, and the floor is utterly flat to the sill.
My initial thought is to push them to lease an EV, since there are some pretty good incentives for doing so, they do mostly short trips and though they like long driving vacations, they're unlikely to do so in the near future. They do have an unused 50A circuit in their garage, but are unlikely to need an L2 charger. That would give them the opportunity to re-evaluate their needs in 2-3 years. But that said, everything is on the table.
My idea of their criteria:
- Safety, both active (driver aids) and passive (crash protection)
- low step-in height and flat floor
- reasonably high seating position ("heel to hip ratio")
- large door opening (height and width)
- Efficiency (I don't think this matters with their annual mileage, but no way they break this habit)
They're not really premium/luxury customers, and a direct replacement of their Santa Fe would be $47k, so kinda targeting that general area--call it $40-60k OTD if purchasing, obviously <$400 lease payments are ideal as well.
So far I've come up with some ideas that, while I may not be a fan myself, might be good options. I have not physically looked at anything, so I don't know if they actually are.
- Tesla Model Y
- Toyota Crown sedan
- Subaru Outback/Forester
- Ford Mach E
- Lexus RX
- Hyundai Ioniq 5/Kia EV6
- Hyundai Pallisade/Kia Telluride
- Pacifica Hybrid
Though I definitely expect to get some pushback on the last few as being way too physically large.
I've also come up with some more wacky ideas:
- Audi Q5 on lowering springs--basically turning it into a giant hatchback
- 2022 BMW iX 50 with the air ride--depreciation puts these just in range
So I know this isn't exactly where most of our enthusiast minds are typically focused, but I'll definitely welcome any insights on the above or new ideas in general.
Last edited by geko29; Today at 01:20 PM.
#2
First off, sorry to hear about the accident. I hope your mom's recovery goes well.
Have you considered a BMW X3? I haven't been in a recent version so I am not sure about height and step in, but it seems like maybe a consideration. I see you stated the Crown sedan, but what about the Crown Signia? Acura RDX?
Have you considered a BMW X3? I haven't been in a recent version so I am not sure about height and step in, but it seems like maybe a consideration. I see you stated the Crown sedan, but what about the Crown Signia? Acura RDX?
#3
Though I will take a look at the X3, my expectation is that it will be too small. The RDX is definitely too small. Crown Signia would absolutely be in the mix, but they're so new I'm highly doubtful that we could even see one, much less buy one on such short notice. Toyota's Lease and Finance terms are also horrid, so the Signia is more expensive than many other similarly-priced options. Obviously they could do outside financing, but not outside leasing.
Last edited by geko29; Today at 12:33 PM.
#4
very sorry to hear about the terrible accident and injuries your folks have. hoping for a good and speedy recovery.
based on your description of needs, i'd recommend an ioniq 5 (not surprisingly!) or a model y. they're both excellent. easy to drive, comfortable and roomy but not huge vehicles.
the ice vehicles are just so much worse in terms of space efficiency and cost of ownership.
my gas car: 20c a mile. my ev car: 4c a mile. no brainer.
based on your description of needs, i'd recommend an ioniq 5 (not surprisingly!) or a model y. they're both excellent. easy to drive, comfortable and roomy but not huge vehicles.
the ice vehicles are just so much worse in terms of space efficiency and cost of ownership.
my gas car: 20c a mile. my ev car: 4c a mile. no brainer.
#6
Glad they are okay, make sure they keep monitoring themselves etc.
I hate to say it by the most optional order person car is a minivan, it's the easiest thing to get in and out of if you aren't going to do something like you mentioned with a lowered Q5 etc. issue is I would also want to suggest a German car or Tesla since they crash the best but the latter doesn't have as good active safety systems/is a little strange to operate and may cause its own issues.
I hate to say it by the most optional order person car is a minivan, it's the easiest thing to get in and out of if you aren't going to do something like you mentioned with a lowered Q5 etc. issue is I would also want to suggest a German car or Tesla since they crash the best but the latter doesn't have as good active safety systems/is a little strange to operate and may cause its own issues.
#7
Short term lease in an EV makes a ton of sense if they aren't going to do the longer drives. On the non-EV side, maybe the Crown Signia? More usable space and better looks vs. the (IMO) fugly crown sedan
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#8
The bummer is that all of the ridiculously cheap lease deals on the Ioniq 5 are on the SEL RWD, and there are no equivalent (incrementally more expensive in line with the price difference) deals for the Limited AWD that they'd need. Not exclusionary by any means, just unfortunate. Also so close to NACS built-in, as that's coming for 2025.
#10
My vote goes for X3 - I believe they are offering 39 month leases on 4cyl
models.
It it an excellent SUV with great build quality, fit/finish.
The entry / exit is very easy without the higher step for something like X5. It has lots of space in the back seat and cargo area.
My 2nd choice would be Subaru Outback - very comfortable, quality interior and safe car.
models.
It it an excellent SUV with great build quality, fit/finish.
The entry / exit is very easy without the higher step for something like X5. It has lots of space in the back seat and cargo area.
My 2nd choice would be Subaru Outback - very comfortable, quality interior and safe car.
Last edited by RNM GS3; Today at 01:19 PM.
#12
My vote goes for X3 - I believe they are offering 39 month leases on 4cyl
models.
It it an excellent SUV with great build quality, fit/finish.
The entry / exit is very easy without the higher step for something like X5. It has lots of space in the back seat and cargo area.
models.
It it an excellent SUV with great build quality, fit/finish.
The entry / exit is very easy without the higher step for something like X5. It has lots of space in the back seat and cargo area.
#13
I was impressed by the new Mini Countryman's packaging when I got to check it out. Very boxy and spacious, and the technology is pretty much the latest BMW has to offer. It's also significantly larger than before, around RAV4 size. $45K loaded is an extraordinarily good price for something with the power, space, and technology it offers, and IMO it might be BMW's best effort in their latest lineup.
#14
I was impressed by the new Mini Countryman's packaging when I got to check it out. Very boxy and spacious, and the technology is pretty much the latest BMW has to offer. It's also significantly larger than before, around RAV4 size. $45K loaded is an extraordinarily good price for something with the power, space, and technology it offers, and IMO it might be BMW's best effort in their latest lineup.