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Old 01-03-04, 09:09 PM
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As we know, Lexus is heading into a direction that will have a common design theme to give the public a sense of "departure" from Toyota. But what about the engine? Should Lexus have their own engines? IMO, this will further separate them from Toyota and will give Lexus that image of individuality and distictiveness. Toyota and Lexus should no longer share engines. I know it's not economically sound but this will surely stop people from saying that Lexus is just another upgraded Toyota. What do you guys think?
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I thought all lexus's were all toyotas anyway just rebadged in north america? Why would they put different engines? We already got screwed by not getting the twin turbo.
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Lexus IS just a rebadged Toyota.

What's wrong with that?

I wear my Toyota badge very proudly as it is.

Twin turbo for life!
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Most people don't care about exclusive engines.

VW and Audi share many engines, and even the Porsche is using the VW 3.2L V6.
Also, the Bentley is using a modified VW W12 engine and Rolls Royce is using a modified BMW V12 engine.

Engines are important, but differences in exterior/interior is what count most.
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Originally posted by kenshin
As we know, Lexus is heading into a direction that will have a common design theme to give the public a sense of "departure" from Toyota. But what about the engine? Should Lexus have their own engines? IMO, this will further separate them from Toyota and will give Lexus that image of individuality and distictiveness. Toyota and Lexus should no longer share engines. I know it's not economically sound but this will surely stop people from saying that Lexus is just another upgraded Toyota. What do you guys th
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lets see lexus is number one in reliability and customer satifaction. the engines are bullet proof. whats the problem; someone that doesn't own one said something you didn't like. get used to it. there are a lot of jealous people out there. i don't have a problem with being a part of toyota in fact i'm proud of it as toyota is a very respected company and they make fine automobiles. ours are just the creme d la cream of the automobile world. ivan
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How about the 4.3 Liter? What Toyota product is that used in?
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Old 01-04-04, 10:18 AM
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If Toyota offers a V8 in their Sedans, I would buy a Toyota instead of Lexus. More Toyota dealerships to get service done and lower prices too
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Old 01-04-04, 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by doug_999
How about the 4.3 Liter? What Toyota product is that used in?
The new v8 Tundra and Land Cruiser

I am also a proud Lexus/Toyota owner! I would also like to point out that we would be losing on one major resource TRD.
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Originally posted by V8_Aristo
The new v8 Tundra and Land Cruiser
That's the 4.7 if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 01-04-04, 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by doug_999
That's the 4.7 if I'm not mistaken.
My mistake...it is the 4.7 I dont think any Toyota's came w/ the 3uzfe.
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Originally posted by doug_999
How about the 4.3 Liter? What Toyota product is that used in?
Toyota Soarer aka Lexus SC430....
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I think that the Landcruiser/LX470 engines are related to the 4.3L.

I don't think that a lot of Toyota/Lexus cars can be fitted with the 'huge' 4.3L. Only top-of-the-line cars use V8 and all Toyota top-of-the-line cars are rebranded as Lexus

I think the 2.0L - 3.5L range would be potentially more suitable for sharing
For example the Camry is using the same 3.0L/3.3L as the Lexus RX and the ES.

By the way, Lotus will introduce its Elise in the US using a Toyota 1.8 VVTi engine with 190ps.
That is really a huge compliment to the Toyota engine designers!
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if you've got a good engine, stick with it, no use tryin to change your engines so people stop calling your car a toyota.... let them think what they want, but 27 problems per 100 cars sounds pretty damn good to me, and i dont want toyota or lexus messin that up by tryin to switch stuff up.... might end up like kia with 509 problems per 100 cars. or even mercedes who has like 90 different engines and a billion different models.... seriously, mercedes needs to get over that, you dont need 6 engine options per model

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Originally posted by EGainer
if you've got a good engine, stick with it, no use tryin to change your engines so people stop calling your car a toyota.... let them think what they want, but 27 problems per 100 cars sounds pretty damn good to me, and i dont want toyota or lexus messin that up by tryin to switch stuff up.... might end up like kia with 509 problems per 100 cars. or even mercedes who has like 90 different engines and a billion different models.... seriously, mercedes needs to get over that, you dont need 6 engine options per model
Part of the reason Lexus vehicles are priced so well is because they limit the packages and options. I can get any color interior with any color exterior on a BMW, I cannot get dark blue with black leather on a GS. BUT it comes at a price, when you go the “anything” you want process, which includes 4-5 engine choices, the cost of manufacturing goes up, so does the price of the car. Lexus has been careful with limiting packages and options, even color choices at certain times so they can streamline their manufacturing process, keep the price of the car lower and keep profits high.
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Toyota engines don't break....if you keep the oil changed.
So....... the answer is obvious.
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