rominl

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let me guess, you are 16? i owned acura before and now lexus, and i can see from a very objective point of view that lexus is true luxury and acura is no where far from entry luxury. i even gladly admitted that when i owned the acura tl-s. acura has always meant to be values, they don't care about jacking up the price of the car and make it true luxury regardless of price, period. if you don't even understand that point, i feel sad about your life.

and don't try to troll this forum, you will find your way out of the door very soon. try to look for my gs4 in your rear view mirror, i'd love to see your taillights too

Iceman

Come on, Rominl, you're a moderator so you should be a little more understanding of our, shall we say, less astute new posters? There's no need to feel sad about someone's life because they have a different perspective on car brands than you. I see both your points (I, too, moved up from Acura to Lexus but I also see Regina's points about Acura's features and feel that they do produce a better car than almost every other marque out there), and think there's room to continue debating the original point of the thread without resorting to personal attacks.

LexFather

regina_tsx, welcome to Clublexus.

Yes, we are hoping you move over and get out the fast lane You mentioned some features Acura has, let me name a couple you can find on a Lexus.

1. Smart keyless technology
2. HIDs that swivel with the direction you turn
3. Laser cruise control (I think the new MDX may have this)
4. Rear parking cameras
5. RWD
6. V-8
7. Coach leather with coach cars, or top quality leather
8. Real wood, not simulation plastic
9. Optitron gauges
10. Electroluminicent gauges (the ones the new TL/TSX copied), this is 13 years old for a Lexus
11. A retractable hardtop
12. Moving rear seats
13. A fridge
14. E-shift (shifting on the wheels)
15. Hybrid technology
16 A host of other things....

Regina, this is not bragging, just facts. Benz owners can say they have TT V-8s and V-12s and we can't get upset, that is a fact. Benz's offer features and color/wood etc combinations that Lexus cannot compete with. The same could be said with BMW.

Sigh, th IS 200 did this years ago....U know why there is an IS 300 here and not an IS 200? B/C I-4s are not considered appropriate for a luxury car. The TSX is a damn fine car, but not a luxury car.


Though this brings something that I have been dwelling for some months. WIth the knock-off Kias, Hyandai's etc looking like luxury cars, you can get leather and many old " Luxury" features in almost any car now, you got Nissan making high HP cars that have more than GS 300s, 530s, you got BMW, Benz going downmarket, well luxury car makers are going to have to step up some.

LexFather

BTW, I know the 30-40k market is called the entry-level luxury market. What is the sub 30k market called? Is there such a thing as a sub 30k luxury car? Then Kia's, Hyandai's, Maximas, etc all would be luxury cars.

I wonder what Bentley owners argue with, Benz owners?

regina_tsx

Ummm....no....28 years old, professionally employed, and formally educated with an annual household income of $85K (Cdn).

Maybe someday when I grow up (read: get old and don't wish to excited about my car anymore) I'll buy a Toyota - I mean Lexus!

LexFather

Single? Looks like your happy with your purchase. Go look in the gallery and tell me those are old people's cars And the cars are damn fine for some damn fine old people.

GlobeCLK

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Even a Toyota Avalon feels more luxury than some Acuras. I don't see why a Lexus-Toyota connection is getting you hyped up. Toyota brand image and product quality is much more superior to Honda, so what are you so happy about

LS400

regina_tsx won't be around to respond anymore, but allow me to summarize things: Acura/Honda vehicles are well-built cars. Lexus and Acura are on different levels.

RON430

As long as you bring it up, and I realize this is starting to get off topic, is Acura trying to find a different niche-price point and/or do they just not want to compete higher up? Not sure I see anything wrong with finding a new niche, and Honda knows a lot about motors, maybe they just want to generate better sales at a different "near luxury" market. Who knows.

asnatlas

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I love it... Well put 1SICKLEX...

Shawn

asnatlas

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Another one bits the dust... So sad... why can't we all just get along...

Shawn

BigBalinGS

What do I think? I think ur a damn idiot that has no clue as to what the hell Acura is even about... I mean yea i'll give u that the RL is a waste of money... but as far as the rest of their lineup goes.... i dunno where u've been but they've all been selling so quickly for the most part they can't keep up with the demand. This coming from an Acura AND a Lexus owner. kthxbye... dumbass.

I used to love this board but for the most part i realize u guyz are just a buncha haterz that simply dont get it. I just hope you guys realized that if Honda wanted to take Acura to the Lexus/MB/BMW level; they could do it.... and would probably do it just as good if not BETTER. Honda has found a niche for acura that isn't quite as high as lexus but is in a position thats defintily luxury... call it entry-level luxury if u will. They found this niche thats allowing thier sales to increase not only annually but monthly... their ripping *** in sales for THIER goals and where they want to take the brand. You guys simply dont get it... they just dont NEED to make a V8 RWD TL... there are plenty of people out there that WANT FWD and a V6... and to prove it... they're selling a **** load of ***....

so lets get all the ignorant **** out here now to go put up Acura sales with Lexus figures and give the argument that it seems lexus is sellling more... u people need to realize its not on the same level... they can just produce cars that are just as good... for the masses... for cheaper and with higher long term value...

rominl

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thanks, you saved me another 5 mins

rominl

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well to understand me too, i never go out and do that to people at all, unless of course, they started the attack. i welcome new members and would love them to stay, but if they come and attack members here that's the last thing they would ever do here. they get personal so i just return the same flavor in a firm tone, either stay objective or they are out of here. i agree there are still tons of room for nice discussions here but the direction he took wasn't bringing him anywhere.

btw, i don't even want to get into the 28 and professionally employed at 80k cdn a yr thing. to me money means nothing, you can make 100k and still be blnd. the mental age is what counts to me. i

rominl

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haha, mike, you da man. how come your posts are always so comprehensive and to the point! i gotta learn from you. you have some excellent points there! i don't know, i very much appreciate the v8 and v12 produced by mb and bimmer, and i love their cars too.

do you guys see the new kia commercial? it's not a mb, it's not a bmw, it's not a lexus, it' not a jag, it's not even a luxury car -- or is it? by that time both me and my wife pretty much say the same thing, "you wish"... haha

and for acura, i have to again give big props to the new TL. if you look at the interior i can really say that they did an excellent job, it's very comfortable and a lot of nice features, in fact very luxury feel too. however putting together the exterior and mostly performance aspect of the car... it's lacking something there