View Poll Results: Which would you choose?
Lexus LS430
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VW Phaeton V8
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LS430 or VW Phaeton
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LS 430 all the way. I beleive there's nothing special about European cars have to offer that Lexus doesn't have. I dont know how much the VW would cost either, but it probably costs more than the Lex too...
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Originally posted by bitkahuna
I'd take an A8 over an LS430 but I think I'd take the LS430 over the Phaeton even though I prefer the Phaeton's looks.
I'd take an A8 over an LS430 but I think I'd take the LS430 over the Phaeton even though I prefer the Phaeton's looks.
Between the Phaeton and LS though, I prefer the Lexus' exterior styling.
On a side note: I think IsraelRX must work for a marketing firm.
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Wow a surprising landslide. The LS seems to really have built a very very solid reputation for itself and setting a great example for the Lexus brand.
Wow a surprising landslide. The LS seems to really have built a very very solid reputation for itself and setting a great example for the Lexus brand.
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http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1319548
116-64 in favor of the Phaeton... not as much of a landslide though
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(there's a lot of good information on that site, but the ignorance of some of members is ridiculous. I do my best to ignore them
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Also, this thread on CL was started because of the thread I just posted. If you look at the dates, the one I posted was made on 4-1-04, with this thread on CL started 4-2-04 by IsraelRX, who goes by IsraelGT on the VWVortex forums and did a standup job of representing Lexus in that thread.
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I was watching 5th gear and they tested the Phaeton. Or tried too. The thing had some issues that pissed of the reviewers.
VW= sad quality. Period. And its sad, that instead of investing and making the products better built, they choose to complete Piech's vision of VW battling benz.
The "peoples' car.
There are STRONG rumors of a car above the Passat and Below the Phaeton to fill that gap. Oh and Tourag quality is a joke. U should read what these owners complain about.
Its selling even slower in Europe. This CAR was a POINTLESS exercise. THEY OWN AUDI!!!! They SELL THE A8!!!!
VW= sad quality. Period. And its sad, that instead of investing and making the products better built, they choose to complete Piech's vision of VW battling benz.
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There are STRONG rumors of a car above the Passat and Below the Phaeton to fill that gap. Oh and Tourag quality is a joke. U should read what these owners complain about.
Its selling even slower in Europe. This CAR was a POINTLESS exercise. THEY OWN AUDI!!!! They SELL THE A8!!!!
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Originally posted by Falcon LS
LS 430 all the way. I beleive there's nothing special about European cars have to offer that Lexus doesn't have. I dont know how much the VW would cost either, but it probably costs more than the Lex too...
LS 430 all the way. I beleive there's nothing special about European cars have to offer that Lexus doesn't have. I dont know how much the VW would cost either, but it probably costs more than the Lex too...
LS430 is still the better car at a more expensive out the door price. More reliable, higher quality, and you'll be able to get parts for it for years!!! not to mention better resale and dealer service. When was the last time a VW dealer was any good at servicing it's products????
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I was surprised that Phaeton didn't have touchscreen nav.
I set in one and I have to say it's nice, but waay too many buttons.
If that car was priced at $51-53K it would have been succesful.
But still I see them on the streets of South Florida, not often but they are around.
I set in one and I have to say it's nice, but waay too many buttons.
If that car was priced at $51-53K it would have been succesful.
But still I see them on the streets of South Florida, not often but they are around.
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The link to the VW board shows the ignorance of people who think if there's more wood in a car, then it is more luxurious.
Putting my lexus biased on the side, I think you have to be an idiot if you think the Lexus interior is cheap. Before I bought my GS, I looked at the S class (window shopping), E-Class and 5 series, and I would say that the GS, which isn't even the flagship car, has an interior amd it's quality is as good as there is.
And people are always using the term "glorified Toyota" to describe Lexus. I don't get it, and what's so bad about being associated with a proven reliable product and fastest growing namesake? Heck I bet my cheap 95 Camry (with 200k miles so far and counting) will be on the road longer than any Bimmer or Benz of the same model year.
Putting my lexus biased on the side, I think you have to be an idiot if you think the Lexus interior is cheap. Before I bought my GS, I looked at the S class (window shopping), E-Class and 5 series, and I would say that the GS, which isn't even the flagship car, has an interior amd it's quality is as good as there is.
And people are always using the term "glorified Toyota" to describe Lexus. I don't get it, and what's so bad about being associated with a proven reliable product and fastest growing namesake? Heck I bet my cheap 95 Camry (with 200k miles so far and counting) will be on the road longer than any Bimmer or Benz of the same model year.
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Originally posted by GStateOM
The link to the VW board shows the ignorance of people who think if there's more wood in a car, then it is more luxurious.
Putting my lexus biased on the side, I think you have to be an idiot if you think the Lexus interior is cheap. Before I bought my GS, I looked at the S class (window shopping), E-Class and 5 series, and I would say that the GS, which isn't even the flagship car, has an interior amd it's quality is as good as there is.
And people are always using the term "glorified Toyota" to describe Lexus. I don't get it, and what's so bad about being associated with a proven reliable product and fastest growing namesake? Heck I bet my cheap 95 Camry (with 200k miles so far and counting) will be on the road longer than any Bimmer or Benz of the same model year.
The link to the VW board shows the ignorance of people who think if there's more wood in a car, then it is more luxurious.
Putting my lexus biased on the side, I think you have to be an idiot if you think the Lexus interior is cheap. Before I bought my GS, I looked at the S class (window shopping), E-Class and 5 series, and I would say that the GS, which isn't even the flagship car, has an interior amd it's quality is as good as there is.
And people are always using the term "glorified Toyota" to describe Lexus. I don't get it, and what's so bad about being associated with a proven reliable product and fastest growing namesake? Heck I bet my cheap 95 Camry (with 200k miles so far and counting) will be on the road longer than any Bimmer or Benz of the same model year.
I was cracking up reading comments about the LS430's "cheap interior". LOL! The only way an LS could appear cheap inside is if you've been living in a Maybach.
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And if Lexus is just a fancy Toyota than fine, I'll take one. If MB and BMW each had a larger parent company, would that make them less of a car? No, of course not.
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Originally posted by whipimpin
Same here; the A8 is amazing.
Same here; the A8 is amazing.
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LS 430 all the way that VW shifter ....scares me!
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