Pre and Post Bangle
04-27-04, 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by MGS4
MB CLK-DTM
Engine: 5.4-liter supercharged AMG-tuned V8
Horsepower: 582 hp
Torque: 590 lb-ft
If the E class had the same engine then it could compete with the new M5 no problem. Too bad it doesn't offer in North America.
MB CLK-DTM
Engine: 5.4-liter supercharged AMG-tuned V8
Horsepower: 582 hp
Torque: 590 lb-ft
If the E class had the same engine then it could compete with the new M5 no problem. Too bad it doesn't offer in North America.
Panty wagon!! Gawd that's............. um................ YEAH!
04-29-04, 07:29 PM
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Re: Pre and Post Bangle
Originally posted by LexusLuver
http://forums1.roadfly.org/mini/foru...4907809-1.html
Wasnt it Clements who recently said something like if Lexus updates their motors, BMW sales are screwed.
I wonder where all the 7-series sales went.
http://forums1.roadfly.org/mini/foru...4907809-1.html
Wasnt it Clements who recently said something like if Lexus updates their motors, BMW sales are screwed.
I wonder where all the 7-series sales went.
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04-30-04, 03:55 AM
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Sounds like what some of you guys are trying to say ( and I'll say it in plain English ) is that post-Bangle BMW sales ARE going to be screwed...but only with the real BMW enthusiasts. Unfortunately, there are are a lot of people ot there who will buy a vehicle ( yes, even one of Bangle's ) based on image only, without really looking into what they are getting, and those computer junkies who like to play with joysticks.....like the I-Drive. So BMW sales overall may or may not be screwed in the long run, but they have DEFINITELY gone down the tubes with real BMW enthusiasts.......that is a no-brainer.
04-30-04, 05:45 AM
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Originally posted by LexusLuver
even so, LS430 YTD sales are up 72%, the 7-series is down.
even so, LS430 YTD sales are up 72%, the 7-series is down.
04-30-04, 08:55 AM
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and 5-series sales didnt go up after a redisign.
actually I think 7-series sales would probably wouldnt have changed either.
BMW sales are off 1200 units and 6200 w/o the X3 and 6series.
Audi is down 1002
MB down 2400
VW down 17800
Lincoln down 107
Are up:
Cadillac 5000
Lexus 13200
Acura 10000
Infiniti 5000
Im quoting an outside source so the numbers might not be exact, there still is a general pattern.
Lexus seems to have secured their SUV market, I think they'll make huge gains in the car segment in a few yrs. Lexus has grown some 20% this yr w/o any halo cars.
actually I think 7-series sales would probably wouldnt have changed either.
BMW sales are off 1200 units and 6200 w/o the X3 and 6series.
Audi is down 1002
MB down 2400
VW down 17800
Lincoln down 107
Are up:
Cadillac 5000
Lexus 13200
Acura 10000
Infiniti 5000
Im quoting an outside source so the numbers might not be exact, there still is a general pattern.
Lexus seems to have secured their SUV market, I think they'll make huge gains in the car segment in a few yrs. Lexus has grown some 20% this yr w/o any halo cars.
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05-02-04, 12:28 PM
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7-speeds?
This is getting a bit ridiculous...I think, for a car capable of only 155mph governed, that 7 gears provide only more shifts. Heck, even at 185, 6 is enough. Has it really come down to "I have more gears, nanneenanneebooboo"? Bangle is a mess, sheesh.
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