Bad news for 7 series fans, good news for LS fans
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Just saw an amazing piece on CNBC where the reporter asked a guy from Consumer Reports to state the results of their car surveys about the most and least reliable vehicles.
Least reliable in first 6 months of ownership: BMW 7 series!
Most reliable: LS430
The guy went on to say that an 8 year old LS400 is STILL more reliable than a 6 month old 7 series.
Could Lexus get any better press than this!?!?
Least reliable in first 6 months of ownership: BMW 7 series!
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Most reliable: LS430
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The guy went on to say that an 8 year old LS400 is STILL more reliable than a 6 month old 7 series.
Could Lexus get any better press than this!?!?
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Yeah, I just heard this on another forum. Good for Lexus. QUALITY is what counts.
Yeah, I just heard this on another forum. Good for Lexus. QUALITY is what counts.
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well i personally like a car thats fun to drive and in that case
7 > LS
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I like a fun to drive car too, but I don't look at it as a top priority in a big luxury sedan like a BMW 7 or LS430, I would get a smaller coupe or sports sedan which will be more fun to drive than both of them .
Luxury, quality & refinement and a near flawless ownership experience are the most important for a car in the premium luxury class in my book. How can it be enjoyable luxury when a car has to go to the shop frequently, especially given the price one has to pay for these cars ?
Luxury, quality & refinement and a near flawless ownership experience are the most important for a car in the premium luxury class in my book. How can it be enjoyable luxury when a car has to go to the shop frequently, especially given the price one has to pay for these cars ?
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Maybe you guys are missing the point... the reporter didn't just say the 7 series was less reliable than an LS430, he said the 7 series was the least reliable car of ALL cars! He said it was plagued by creaks, squeaks, electrical faults, and computer glitches. What a joke. He said the LS had no faults at all.
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Originally posted by SexySC
I like a fun to drive car too, but I don't look at it as a top priority in a big luxury sedan like a BMW 7 or LS430, I would get a smaller coupe or sports sedan which will be more fun to drive than both of them .
Luxury, quality & refinement and a near flawless ownership experience are the most important for a car in the premium luxury class in my book. How can it be enjoyable luxury when a car has to go to the shop frequently, especially given the price one has to pay for these cars ?
I like a fun to drive car too, but I don't look at it as a top priority in a big luxury sedan like a BMW 7 or LS430, I would get a smaller coupe or sports sedan which will be more fun to drive than both of them .
Luxury, quality & refinement and a near flawless ownership experience are the most important for a car in the premium luxury class in my book. How can it be enjoyable luxury when a car has to go to the shop frequently, especially given the price one has to pay for these cars ?
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I agree with most of you, but you also have to remember that the new 7er has newer toys in it that the LS doesnt have. Give it a few years and bmw will work the bugs out... otherwise i too would get a LS430. (actually rather get the A8)
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Problem is, the new toys got universally blasted as ergonomics and reliability nightmare, whereas LS430 features and ergonomics are functionally more sophisticated & got great praises from almost everyone.
Second, after "a few years" time, when they at least work some of the bugs out, it's time for another new 7 series redesign, when they have to put different new "toys" to impress . . . . . here we go again
Second, after "a few years" time, when they at least work some of the bugs out, it's time for another new 7 series redesign, when they have to put different new "toys" to impress . . . . . here we go again
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