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Yeah - there's no telling exactly why GM keeps Buick around. I think it's a bad idea to divest Cadillac's Escalade profits into a completely fallen brand like Buick. But, Caddy was (and still is to some extent) down and out not too long ago.
I just don't think the LaCrosse is to Buick what the CTS is and what the upcoming STS (despite the styling) will be to Cadillac - and GM as a whole.
I just don't think the LaCrosse is to Buick what the CTS is and what the upcoming STS (despite the styling) will be to Cadillac - and GM as a whole.
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GM just can't keep closing the doors on their brands, they spent 900 million to pay off Oldsmobile dealers, it easy to stop making the cars but the dealers are the problem, if the dealers where not a problem Saturn would probably be gone but GM is gonna redo the whole lineup
Buicks problem was their customer base was dieing, but with Tiger Woods and the Rendezvous they lowered their average customer ager to like 54
anyone notice the Rainier thats the Oldsmobile Bravado and the Terraza, minivan with a truck like front
GM problem is they spread themselves to thin, the trailblazer now has a Saab nameplate
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Buicks problem was their customer base was dieing, but with Tiger Woods and the Rendezvous they lowered their average customer ager to like 54
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GM problem is they spread themselves to thin, the trailblazer now has a Saab nameplate
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Originally posted by whipimpin
Hey look - it's the new Hyundai Tiburon!
Oh wait ... oh, never mind, it's a Buick.
Hey look - it's the new Hyundai Tiburon!
Oh wait ... oh, never mind, it's a Buick.
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The Locrosse is one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen.
It makes Chris Bangle look like a genius. What is GM
thinking when they approve a design like this?
The only good Buick design in the last 10 years is
the current Century which is at the end of it's life cycle.
And that's the cheapest model!
Too many companies have tried unsuccessfully to use
a dual lense headlight design. It was originally a signature
of Jaguar, Lexus, and then MB. They did it right. Now we
see pathetic examples on Hyundai's & Kia's and now Buick?
It makes Chris Bangle look like a genius. What is GM
thinking when they approve a design like this?
The only good Buick design in the last 10 years is
the current Century which is at the end of it's life cycle.
And that's the cheapest model!
Too many companies have tried unsuccessfully to use
a dual lense headlight design. It was originally a signature
of Jaguar, Lexus, and then MB. They did it right. Now we
see pathetic examples on Hyundai's & Kia's and now Buick?
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Originally posted by EDGE2
GM just can't keep closing the doors on their brands, they spent 900 million to pay off Oldsmobile dealers, it easy to stop making the cars but the dealers are the problem, if the dealers where not a problem Saturn would probably be gone but GM is gonna redo the whole lineup
Buicks problem was their customer base was dieing, but with Tiger Woods and the Rendezvous they lowered their average customer ager to like 54
anyone notice the Rainier thats the Oldsmobile Bravado and the Terraza, minivan with a truck like front
GM problem is they spread themselves to thin, the trailblazer now has a Saab nameplate
GM just can't keep closing the doors on their brands, they spent 900 million to pay off Oldsmobile dealers, it easy to stop making the cars but the dealers are the problem, if the dealers where not a problem Saturn would probably be gone but GM is gonna redo the whole lineup
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Buicks problem was their customer base was dieing, but with Tiger Woods and the Rendezvous they lowered their average customer ager to like 54
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GM problem is they spread themselves to thin, the trailblazer now has a Saab nameplate
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The Upcoming Chevy Venture replacement the Uplander is what you're referring to I think ... it will have a slew of GM Brand Copies sold under different marques; one by Buick which will be called the Terraza.
AND HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The new Acura RL (2005) is a giant carbon copy of the Mazda3 ... only with 20s. HOW TERRIBLE IS THAT?!!
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Originally posted by GS3Tek
oops. Thanks. That was Oldsmobile. I guess Buick should be next then
oops. Thanks. That was Oldsmobile. I guess Buick should be next then
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Buick officials talking.
Lexus GS headlights....CHECK!
Lexyus GS C-pillar......CHECK!
And I honestly don't think Buick is that bad. It's just not for us.
Buick officials talking.
Lexus GS headlights....CHECK!
Lexyus GS C-pillar......CHECK!
And I honestly don't think Buick is that bad. It's just not for us.
Like much of the rest of GM, however, Buick needs to get its act together in the fit-and-finish area...their cars simply look and feel too cheap.
I disagree, however with the posts about Buick's ( and Cadillac's and Lincoln-Mercury's ) customer base dying off. Don't forget....today's young dudes are tomorrow's fathers and grandpas. The average life expectancy keeps getting longer and longer all the time. And the largest American generation in history...80 million post-WWII baby boomers...are almost ready to retire and move into granny-cars.
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Originally posted by mmarshall
Let's see if you feel the same way 30 or 40 years from now....when you're running around in a Park Avenue or Lesabre.
Let's see if you feel the same way 30 or 40 years from now....when you're running around in a Park Avenue or Lesabre.
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Originally posted by GS3Tek
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly, but 30-40 years from now, I still won't be driving in a Park Avenue or LeSabre. They will be too big for my old-age slow-reaction brain and will have more problems than a Lexus. The steering will be too hard for me to turn and the buttons will be too hard for me to push. I will be in an LS by then, new or used.
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly, but 30-40 years from now, I still won't be driving in a Park Avenue or LeSabre. They will be too big for my old-age slow-reaction brain and will have more problems than a Lexus. The steering will be too hard for me to turn and the buttons will be too hard for me to push. I will be in an LS by then, new or used.
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Yeah, I was just kidding...not every senior citizen drives a Buick. Some of the more limited-income ones drive Geo and Chevy Metros.
If you're in an LS by then I will probably be with you...if I can afford one. For now, at least, it is probably the best luxury car available.
And listen....don't assume that old age necessarily means slow reactions or an inability to think. Carroll Shelby is 80-something and Chuck Yeagher is the same age.....and they still drive race cars and fly fighter jets.