Car I am secretly in love with (and the USA can't have)BMW M3 CSL
05-30-04, 10:28 PM
#16
funny enough, that's actually one car i don't really feel much for daily drive. yes i am sure that's a great car for the track, but for daily drive the beauty about the m3 is that it's fast yet it's comfortable and luxury enough to be driven daily. the csl is so track oriented it's not for daily drive.
just like i'd love to have the 911 turbo but i would have to think about the gt3
just like i'd love to have the 911 turbo but i would have to think about the gt3
05-31-04, 03:13 AM
#17
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Originally posted by rominl
funny enough, that's actually one car i don't really feel much for daily drive. yes i am sure that's a great car for the track, but for daily drive the beauty about the m3 is that it's fast yet it's comfortable and luxury enough to be driven daily. the csl is so track oriented it's not for daily drive.
just like i'd love to have the 911 turbo but i would have to think about the gt3
funny enough, that's actually one car i don't really feel much for daily drive. yes i am sure that's a great car for the track, but for daily drive the beauty about the m3 is that it's fast yet it's comfortable and luxury enough to be driven daily. the csl is so track oriented it's not for daily drive.
just like i'd love to have the 911 turbo but i would have to think about the gt3
The only thing you have to watch out for is rain if you have the no cost option semi race tires.
06-01-04, 12:12 AM
#18
Originally posted by Richie
I wouldn't mind having the CSL as a daily. The drive isn't that bad.
The only thing you have to watch out for is rain if you have the no cost option semi race tires.
I wouldn't mind having the CSL as a daily. The drive isn't that bad.
The only thing you have to watch out for is rain if you have the no cost option semi race tires.
06-01-04, 01:59 AM
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06-01-04, 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Richie
Have you driven it allready?
Have you driven it allready?
in fact that's why bmw decided to put in an option for non racing slick tires.
and that's why initially the track time for the csl was soooo tremendous, even win over (or very head to head?) with the gt3. but once the test was done using the non racing slick tires, the performance of the csl degraded quite a bit
06-01-04, 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by rominl
and that's why initially the track time for the csl was soooo tremendous, even win over (or very head to head?) with the gt3.
and that's why initially the track time for the csl was soooo tremendous, even win over (or very head to head?) with the gt3.
because they cost pretty much the same??
06-01-04, 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by rominl
nop, but i have read a lot of reviews on that and they all warn if you wanna drive the car daily, re-think on the racing slick. also when the csl first came out, i remember reading road fly and couple of guys (those super well off people) wrecked their csl so fast coz' of the racing slick. they just don't have no grip at all on slightly wet road
in fact that's why bmw decided to put in an option for non racing slick tires.
and that's why initially the track time for the csl was soooo tremendous, even win over (or very head to head?) with the gt3. but once the test was done using the non racing slick tires, the performance of the csl degraded quite a bit
nop, but i have read a lot of reviews on that and they all warn if you wanna drive the car daily, re-think on the racing slick. also when the csl first came out, i remember reading road fly and couple of guys (those super well off people) wrecked their csl so fast coz' of the racing slick. they just don't have no grip at all on slightly wet road
in fact that's why bmw decided to put in an option for non racing slick tires.
and that's why initially the track time for the csl was soooo tremendous, even win over (or very head to head?) with the gt3. but once the test was done using the non racing slick tires, the performance of the csl degraded quite a bit
It just looks so
. I love it.
06-02-04, 07:08 AM
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The CSl is marketed differently here in Europe.
It is marketed as a track car you can drive on the road, mostly for the track day enthausiast.
They do not really care about the "not so comfy" ride. They care mostly about track times and that it where the CSL shines.
The biggest gaines for the CSL are the lower centre of gravity and lower overall weight. It has slightly more power then the stock M3 bit it does have a faster acting SMG box. The Road Legal racing tires also help alot.
It runs rings around the stock M3. Around the nurnburgring it is allmost 30 secs faster.
If you have a racing licence you can get the limiter removed also but I think you have to sign something to free BMW of any responsebillities when you go for the racing tire. It will give you awesome grip on anything but wet roads.
It is marketed as a track car you can drive on the road, mostly for the track day enthausiast.
They do not really care about the "not so comfy" ride. They care mostly about track times and that it where the CSL shines.
The biggest gaines for the CSL are the lower centre of gravity and lower overall weight. It has slightly more power then the stock M3 bit it does have a faster acting SMG box. The Road Legal racing tires also help alot.
It runs rings around the stock M3. Around the nurnburgring it is allmost 30 secs faster.
If you have a racing licence you can get the limiter removed also but I think you have to sign something to free BMW of any responsebillities when you go for the racing tire. It will give you awesome grip on anything but wet roads.
06-02-04, 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Richie
The CSl is marketed differently here in Europe.
It is marketed as a track car you can drive on the road, mostly for the track day enthausiast.
They do not really care about the "not so comfy" ride. They care mostly about track times and that it where the CSL shines.
The biggest gaines for the CSL are the lower centre of gravity and lower overall weight. It has slightly more power then the stock M3 bit it does have a faster acting SMG box. The Road Legal racing tires also help alot.
It runs rings around the stock M3. Around the nurnburgring it is allmost 30 secs faster.
If you have a racing licence you can get the limiter removed also but I think you have to sign something to free BMW of any responsebillities when you go for the racing tire. It will give you awesome grip on anything but wet roads.
The CSl is marketed differently here in Europe.
It is marketed as a track car you can drive on the road, mostly for the track day enthausiast.
They do not really care about the "not so comfy" ride. They care mostly about track times and that it where the CSL shines.
The biggest gaines for the CSL are the lower centre of gravity and lower overall weight. It has slightly more power then the stock M3 bit it does have a faster acting SMG box. The Road Legal racing tires also help alot.
It runs rings around the stock M3. Around the nurnburgring it is allmost 30 secs faster.
If you have a racing licence you can get the limiter removed also but I think you have to sign something to free BMW of any responsebillities when you go for the racing tire. It will give you awesome grip on anything but wet roads.
06-02-04, 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Rom is right. The M3 CSL has not gotten rave reviews. Since this car has no A/C, rides harsher with minimal performance benefit, it defeats the purpose of the M3, to have a livable sports car. Or just buy a sports car, a 911 for instance.
It just looks so . I love it.
Rom is right. The M3 CSL has not gotten rave reviews. Since this car has no A/C, rides harsher with minimal performance benefit, it defeats the purpose of the M3, to have a livable sports car. Or just buy a sports car, a 911 for instance.
It just looks so
. I love it.
06-02-04, 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by rominl
that's why all those super well off dudes in europe, they have a normal m3 for daily drive, and one csl for track. gosh.... do they have money...
that's why all those super well off dudes in europe, they have a normal m3 for daily drive, and one csl for track. gosh.... do they have money...