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06-16-04, 05:32 PM
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Toyota=cheaters=losers=idiots=....(long)
Freakin'-a, it appears Toyota's various motorsports arms are hopelessly addicted to cheating.
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=30423
They got kicked out of WRC. The made CART into a joke. Now they're probably going to get themselves kicked out of F1.
As a soon-to-be former fan of their race cars, I can no longer defend them. Stealing, literally, from Ferrari is totally base and inappropriate. As a fan of their road cars, I am saddened beyond words. Sure, I don't expect Toyota to pull their top Japanese talent off consumer projects to help out F1, but come on. They're the richest motor company on earth. Why do they have to resort to stealing from Ferrari?
It's really embarassing. I've been cheering them since the '02 inception and hope they'll win one day, but those hopes are fading. Especially if this type of behaviour continues. And with the super-strict Formula that will be in place within the next few years, this is not good news for Toyota fans. I don't even want to imagine how ugly it's gonna get.
And they need a big win in F1 so they can launch their next round of performance cars, Supra included. That's why there is so much driver shuffling and nerviousness stemming from the top brass in Japan. There is so much wrong with Toyota's F1 programme that it's absolutely incredible. It's a marketing exercise and top brass doesn't understand why they're failing and as a result they get pissed off and etc. etc. They're wanting to gain credibility on the world stage in motorsports before they get back into serious consumer motorcars. And they're going about it all wrong, ***-backwards even.
Shame on you Toyota, SHAME ON YOU.
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Don't act like you didn't know it was happening, fans of the series' they were in all knew what was going on. Toyota wants to be so American/European it isn't funny. They don't want ot be themselves and use their true potential for fresh ideas and designs. They cheat so they can get the publicity of a REAL racing team like the Audi Le Mans team, or the Peugot WRC teams have boosted their sales. And lets not get into how they campaign racecars in the lower tier NASCAR levels.
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Originally posted by 2jzgte
Don't act like you didn't know it was happening, fans of the series' they were in all knew what was going on. Toyota wants to be so American/European it isn't funny. They don't want ot be themselves and use their true potential for fresh ideas and designs. They cheat so they can get the publicity of a REAL racing team like the Audi Le Mans team, or the Peugot WRC teams have boosted their sales. And lets not get into how they campaign racecars in the lower tier NASCAR levels.
Don't act like you didn't know it was happening, fans of the series' they were in all knew what was going on. Toyota wants to be so American/European it isn't funny. They don't want ot be themselves and use their true potential for fresh ideas and designs. They cheat so they can get the publicity of a REAL racing team like the Audi Le Mans team, or the Peugot WRC teams have boosted their sales. And lets not get into how they campaign racecars in the lower tier NASCAR levels.
That's why I'm so ticked.
My entire point is that I believe there should still be some chivalry and honor in racing, and I expected more from Toyota, especially in something as prestigious as F1. Cheaters don't win in F1, never have, never will. Unless Toyota buys them all out.
And now that BAR-Honda is totally beating down everyone's doors, Toyota is bound to get even more pissed off. They'll probably just resort to swerving into the BAR-Honda machines as they lap the Toyotas...
06-18-04, 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by 2jzgte
Don't act like you didn't know it was happening, fans of the series' they were in all knew what was going on. Toyota wants to be so American/European it isn't funny. They don't want ot be themselves and use their true potential for fresh ideas and designs. They cheat so they can get the publicity of a REAL racing team like the Audi Le Mans team, or the Peugot WRC teams have boosted their sales. And lets not get into how they campaign racecars in the lower tier NASCAR levels.
Don't act like you didn't know it was happening, fans of the series' they were in all knew what was going on. Toyota wants to be so American/European it isn't funny. They don't want ot be themselves and use their true potential for fresh ideas and designs. They cheat so they can get the publicity of a REAL racing team like the Audi Le Mans team, or the Peugot WRC teams have boosted their sales. And lets not get into how they campaign racecars in the lower tier NASCAR levels.
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06-18-04, 11:23 AM
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Toyota AND WILLIAMS had non conforming brake ducts and that is what unleashed this? Exactly what is a non conforming brake duct? Then again, I'm shocked, shocked to hear that there is cheating going on in F1 and other forms of professional auto racing. 
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06-18-04, 11:47 AM
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Toyota AND WILLIAMS had non conforming brake ducts and that is what unleashed this? Exactly what is a non conforming brake duct? Then again, I'm shocked, shocked to hear that there is cheating going on in F1 and other forms of professional auto racing.
Toyota AND WILLIAMS had non conforming brake ducts and that is what unleashed this? Exactly what is a non conforming brake duct? Then again, I'm shocked, shocked to hear that there is cheating going on in F1 and other forms of professional auto racing.
06-18-04, 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by RON430
Toyota AND WILLIAMS had non conforming brake ducts and that is what unleashed this? Exactly what is a non conforming brake duct? Then again, I'm shocked, shocked to hear that there is cheating going on in F1 and other forms of professional auto racing.
Toyota AND WILLIAMS had non conforming brake ducts and that is what unleashed this? Exactly what is a non conforming brake duct? Then again, I'm shocked, shocked to hear that there is cheating going on in F1 and other forms of professional auto racing.
toyota..... be number one at everything... but not cheating! you hear me!?!?!
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