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CEO Embraces Responsibility, Presses Federal Governent For Consistency
Volvo chief executive officer and president Håkan Samuelsson says one of the most vexing challenges facing the auto industry can be solved with a simple statement: Manufacturers should be held responsible if their autonomous technology causes car accidents. Two days after the Swedish automaker pledged to be "fully liable" for accidents caused by its self-driving technology, Samuelsson pushed the entire industry to follow Volvo's lead.
"We are the suppliers of this technology and we are liable for everything the car is doing in autonomous mode," he said Thursday during an appearance in Washington DC. "If you are not ready to make such a statement, you shouldn't try to develop an autonomous system."
Google and Mercedes-Benz have made similar pledges, but it's not yet clear whether other automakers will follow. A spokesperson for the Auto Alliance, an industry trade group representing major OEMs says the organization has no position on whether the industry should be held liable.
But in the span of a few short days, the series of announcements from Volvo, Google, and Mercedes-Benz set a substantial precedent. Even though self-driving cars aren't yet on sale, the industry has been mulling questions over autonomous liability for some time, and no clear answers had emerged. Samuelsson said further inaction would hinder progress on commercial implementation of autonomobiles and stumped for federal guidance and regulation that would ready roads for deployment.
Details of Volvo's liability pledge are still being discussed, but the CEO said his plan was ultimately a simple one. Volvo would accept liability for all crashes caused by the self-driving technology. It would not include coverage for incidents that occurred when autonomous-capable cars were under human control, nor would it cover instances when a car operated in autonomous mode could not avoid the reckless actions of another vehicle.
"If the system is causing an accident or over-speeding because it didn't read a sign in the right way, that is what I mean," he said. "That is what should be included."
Signs might not even be needed in an autonomous future, a possibility raised during a panel discussion at the House of Sweden, where Samuelsson made the announcement. If that prospect struck some in the transportation community as far-fetched, it struck others as obvious, just as the notion that automakers should be held responsible for their products did.
"Why would Volvo accept liability for autonomous vehicles?" asked Alain Kornhauser, faculty chair of Princeton's Autonomous Vehicles Engineering program. "Because they know it's not going to cost them anything. They're going to make it safe. They're going to sell these suckers and make money off it, and insurance companies that see that will get rich off that."
More than 32,000 people are killed and 400,000 injured in car crashes every year in the United States. Automakers haven't said their autonomous technology will be perfect, but with human error responsible for 94 percent of accidents, they believe they can sharply improve on that toll. Embracing the liability may be a signal the technology is nearing readiness for deployment.
"Any corporation putting its name on something that will be driven without a driver is going to do that," said Ron Medford, director of safety for Google's self-driving car project. "Regulation is fine, and we support efforts being made to make sure the vehicle is safe. But the primary responsibility will be with the manufacturer, because it has to be."
Another sign autonomous deployment may be nearing: After testing cars on public roads for six years, Google recently hired auto-industry veteran John Krafcik as the first CEO of its self-driving car program. While technology may be ready, public policy still needs development and refinement. Samuelsson, pictured above, pressed both the industry and federal government to find ways to ensure laws and regulations are adopted and consistent across the United States. In Europe, he said a patchwork of varying laws may hamper the sale and functionality of autonomous vehicles crossing from one jurisdiction into the other. He said the US could adopt a lead role by avoiding such confusion here.
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration officials say they're researching ways to create uniform testing practices and have initiated the process of rule-making for vehicle-to-vehicle communications, which could affect how self-driving cars interact in a broader traffic environment. The irony of an automaker calling for regulations and standards, which are often loathed by industry insiders, wasn't lost on NHTSA administrator Mark Rosekind.
"From where I sit, you can have all kinds of strong voices literally yelling at us – 'Don't regulate, you'll constrain innovation!' – and at the same time, President Samuelsson is saying you need some consistency across the board," he said.
"We are the suppliers of this technology and we are liable for everything the car is doing in autonomous mode," he said Thursday during an appearance in Washington DC. "If you are not ready to make such a statement, you shouldn't try to develop an autonomous system."
Google and Mercedes-Benz have made similar pledges, but it's not yet clear whether other automakers will follow. A spokesperson for the Auto Alliance, an industry trade group representing major OEMs says the organization has no position on whether the industry should be held liable.
But in the span of a few short days, the series of announcements from Volvo, Google, and Mercedes-Benz set a substantial precedent. Even though self-driving cars aren't yet on sale, the industry has been mulling questions over autonomous liability for some time, and no clear answers had emerged. Samuelsson said further inaction would hinder progress on commercial implementation of autonomobiles and stumped for federal guidance and regulation that would ready roads for deployment.
Details of Volvo's liability pledge are still being discussed, but the CEO said his plan was ultimately a simple one. Volvo would accept liability for all crashes caused by the self-driving technology. It would not include coverage for incidents that occurred when autonomous-capable cars were under human control, nor would it cover instances when a car operated in autonomous mode could not avoid the reckless actions of another vehicle.
"If the system is causing an accident or over-speeding because it didn't read a sign in the right way, that is what I mean," he said. "That is what should be included."
Signs might not even be needed in an autonomous future, a possibility raised during a panel discussion at the House of Sweden, where Samuelsson made the announcement. If that prospect struck some in the transportation community as far-fetched, it struck others as obvious, just as the notion that automakers should be held responsible for their products did.
"Why would Volvo accept liability for autonomous vehicles?" asked Alain Kornhauser, faculty chair of Princeton's Autonomous Vehicles Engineering program. "Because they know it's not going to cost them anything. They're going to make it safe. They're going to sell these suckers and make money off it, and insurance companies that see that will get rich off that."
More than 32,000 people are killed and 400,000 injured in car crashes every year in the United States. Automakers haven't said their autonomous technology will be perfect, but with human error responsible for 94 percent of accidents, they believe they can sharply improve on that toll. Embracing the liability may be a signal the technology is nearing readiness for deployment.
"Any corporation putting its name on something that will be driven without a driver is going to do that," said Ron Medford, director of safety for Google's self-driving car project. "Regulation is fine, and we support efforts being made to make sure the vehicle is safe. But the primary responsibility will be with the manufacturer, because it has to be."
Another sign autonomous deployment may be nearing: After testing cars on public roads for six years, Google recently hired auto-industry veteran John Krafcik as the first CEO of its self-driving car program. While technology may be ready, public policy still needs development and refinement. Samuelsson, pictured above, pressed both the industry and federal government to find ways to ensure laws and regulations are adopted and consistent across the United States. In Europe, he said a patchwork of varying laws may hamper the sale and functionality of autonomous vehicles crossing from one jurisdiction into the other. He said the US could adopt a lead role by avoiding such confusion here.
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration officials say they're researching ways to create uniform testing practices and have initiated the process of rule-making for vehicle-to-vehicle communications, which could affect how self-driving cars interact in a broader traffic environment. The irony of an automaker calling for regulations and standards, which are often loathed by industry insiders, wasn't lost on NHTSA administrator Mark Rosekind.
"From where I sit, you can have all kinds of strong voices literally yelling at us – 'Don't regulate, you'll constrain innovation!' – and at the same time, President Samuelsson is saying you need some consistency across the board," he said.
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Bloomberg: Can Detroit Beat Google to the Self-Driving Car?
Illustrations by Bratislav Milenkovic
Here is a little part of the very interesting article...
Cadillac, which was two decades old when flappers were saying things like “the cat’s meow,” will be the first GM make to come with Super Cruise, the company’s most ambitious technological foray since automatic transmission. The system isn’t fully autonomous. Pairing adaptive cruise control with lane-centering technology, it will allow drivers, or whatever they’re called in the future, to let the car take over only on the highway. It will also, if all goes according to plan, propel GM into a multibillion-dollar race for the future of human mobility.
The question is whether GM can get to the future on time. Super Cruise won’t hit the market until 2017. Elon Musk has just begun offering autopilot on his Tesla Model S. Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi, and Volvo have similar hands-free driving systems in the works. Then there’s Google, which wants to skip the half-measures and do a full-on moonshot: totally autonomous cars that, regulators willing, won’t even come with a steering wheel or gas pedal. Google’s latest prototypes are already driving themselves around Silicon Valley, where they’re known as Koala cars because of their bulbous shape, and they may be available for purchase right around the time GM’s hands-free Caddy hits showrooms.
The question is whether GM can get to the future on time. Super Cruise won’t hit the market until 2017. Elon Musk has just begun offering autopilot on his Tesla Model S. Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi, and Volvo have similar hands-free driving systems in the works. Then there’s Google, which wants to skip the half-measures and do a full-on moonshot: totally autonomous cars that, regulators willing, won’t even come with a steering wheel or gas pedal. Google’s latest prototypes are already driving themselves around Silicon Valley, where they’re known as Koala cars because of their bulbous shape, and they may be available for purchase right around the time GM’s hands-free Caddy hits showrooms.
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rumor is ford will build google's self-driving cars... next year
http://www.computerworld.com/article...next-year.html
http://www.computerworld.com/article...next-year.html
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rumor is ford will build google's self-driving cars... next year
http://www.computerworld.com/article...next-year.html
http://www.computerworld.com/article...next-year.html
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I can't wait to see what Foogle comes up with
Plus Ford submitted a record number of patents this year: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...yes-innovation
Also I heard Google/Alphabet will be starting a new subsidiary in 2016 for self-driving cars: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...ompany-in-2016
Plus Ford submitted a record number of patents this year: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...yes-innovation
Also I heard Google/Alphabet will be starting a new subsidiary in 2016 for self-driving cars: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...ompany-in-2016
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excellent article on possible ford/google partnership and why others should worry, and finally speculation on societal impact of driverless cars.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/chunkamu...hip-with-ford/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/chunkamu...hip-with-ford/
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google admits their self-driving car (a lexus rx450h) bears some responsibility in this fender bender that occurred...
http://www.computerworld.com/article...-accident.html
http://www.computerworld.com/article...-accident.html
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google admits their self-driving car (a lexus rx450h) bears some responsibility in this fender bender that occurred...
http://www.computerworld.com/article...-accident.html
http://www.computerworld.com/article...-accident.html
I would say it they (google-self driving car) bears majority of the fault and responsibility.
It's dangerous to assume other drivers will yield or do something especially when your going much slower than traffic is poor judgement.