Self-Driving Vehicles
01-19-17, 05:32 PM
#376
The fallacy of logic is that because a technology is hard to implement or may not even work in a large city (I think it will work), that it won't have value or won't be implemented. Like I said, I live outside Washington, DC but pretty much everywhere I drive on a regular basis a self driving car would work just fine for me. Highways, suburban roads. So if I have to take over when I get into the city, that's just one portion of my driving area.
A technology doesn't have to solve every solution to be of value.
Also, "autonomous cars" doesn't have to mean that the driver NEVER drives. It may be that in some situations the car can drive itself and the driver can sleep, work, etc. Highway trips, etc. And in some they have to drive. I think that's the short term most likely result. Eventually though, I do think we will have totally autonomous cars within my lifetime.
A technology doesn't have to solve every solution to be of value.
Also, "autonomous cars" doesn't have to mean that the driver NEVER drives. It may be that in some situations the car can drive itself and the driver can sleep, work, etc. Highway trips, etc. And in some they have to drive. I think that's the short term most likely result. Eventually though, I do think we will have totally autonomous cars within my lifetime.
Furthermore, will a self driving car obey all the rules and only drive the speed limit and obey every sign? It is often necessary to break the law in order to keep traffic moving, but can a self driving car be programmed to break a law? Say can it stop in a no standing zone? Can it cross a double yellow lane to go around a double parked vehicle? Will the government approve a self driving car that is programmed to break laws? Will all self driving cars be the same weird looking econoboxes or will we have different types of cars, perhaps a self driving sports car? Will manufacturers compete with each other to develop better algorithms - for instance can a self driving BMW have an arrogant algorithm to take a parking spot right in front of a slowpoke self driving Prius that's been patiently waiting for it for 30 minutes?
All in all, suburban parents should stop worrying about their precious kids so much and stop trying to protect them from everything in the real world, even such basic things as driving. Because these pampered hummusicles will only grow up to be funemployed kidults with liberal arts degrees, incapable of doing anything besides growing licy beards and handcrafting dog poop art.
01-19-17, 06:30 PM
#377
Lexus Fanatic
I'm certainly not going to debate whether autonomous driving cars will ever happen on the highway because I can go buy one right now that drive autonomously on the highway lol
Don't know how old your car is, but my cars know what the speed limit is on almost every road I drive on, and my van has dynamic cruise control that keeps pace with the traffic around it.
Again, I've said it many times. Autonomous driving doesn't have to mean the car makes all decisions. Doesn't have to mean the car chooses parking spaces, sets speeds, etc. It means it does the mechanics of driving for you, and like I said you can buy one that does so in certain situations right now.
Don't know how old your car is, but my cars know what the speed limit is on almost every road I drive on, and my van has dynamic cruise control that keeps pace with the traffic around it.
Again, I've said it many times. Autonomous driving doesn't have to mean the car makes all decisions. Doesn't have to mean the car chooses parking spaces, sets speeds, etc. It means it does the mechanics of driving for you, and like I said you can buy one that does so in certain situations right now.
Last edited by SW17LS; 01-19-17 at 06:34 PM.
01-19-17, 07:08 PM
#378
I'm certainly not going to debate whether autonomous driving cars will ever happen on the highway because I can go buy one right now that drive autonomously on the highway lol
Don't know how old your car is, but my cars know what the speed limit is on almost every road I drive on, and my van has dynamic cruise control that keeps pace with the traffic around it.
Again, I've said it many times. Autonomous driving doesn't have to mean the car makes all decisions. Doesn't have to mean the car chooses parking spaces, sets speeds, etc. It means it does the mechanics of driving for you, and like I said you can buy one that does so in certain situations right now.
Don't know how old your car is, but my cars know what the speed limit is on almost every road I drive on, and my van has dynamic cruise control that keeps pace with the traffic around it.
Again, I've said it many times. Autonomous driving doesn't have to mean the car makes all decisions. Doesn't have to mean the car chooses parking spaces, sets speeds, etc. It means it does the mechanics of driving for you, and like I said you can buy one that does so in certain situations right now.
01-19-17, 08:32 PM
#379
Lexus Fanatic
it's like I'm in some strange parallel universe. Unsubscribed lol
01-19-17, 10:18 PM
#380
Great reads over here.
https://www.commerce.senate.gov/publ...imony-2016.pdf
http://searchcio.techtarget.com/blog...-MIT-professor
https://www.commerce.senate.gov/publ...imony-2016.pdf
http://searchcio.techtarget.com/blog...-MIT-professor
01-20-17, 03:09 AM
#381
Lexus Test Driver
I think a big problem in the discussion is the improper use of the word "autonomous". The fact that people in the discussion constantly have to use the term "100% autonomous" demonstrates the problem - autonomous, as defined in this context, should mean 100% autonomous. It's the not-100%-autonomous forms that should require a modifier (i.e., semi-autonomous), but so many people use the word "autonomous" when they really mean "semi-autonomous".
01-20-17, 04:46 AM
#382
This was a particularly good read given the author is knowledgeable about the technologies and has pragmatic experience.
I think a big problem in the discussion is the improper use of the word "autonomous". The fact that people in the discussion constantly have to use the term "100% autonomous" demonstrates the problem - autonomous, as defined in this context, should mean 100% autonomous. It's the not-100%-autonomous forms that should require a modifier (i.e., semi-autonomous), but so many people use the word "autonomous" when they really mean "semi-autonomous".
I think a big problem in the discussion is the improper use of the word "autonomous". The fact that people in the discussion constantly have to use the term "100% autonomous" demonstrates the problem - autonomous, as defined in this context, should mean 100% autonomous. It's the not-100%-autonomous forms that should require a modifier (i.e., semi-autonomous), but so many people use the word "autonomous" when they really mean "semi-autonomous".
01-20-17, 07:05 AM
#383
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
coming soon... truck drivers fast asleep and snoring in the back of the semi-bed as the truck proceeds barreling down the interstate. 
01-20-17, 07:39 AM
#384
Lexus Fanatic
You're not used to seeing these, of course, in billard-table flat Florida.
02-20-17, 12:42 AM
#385
Pole Position
Bumping up an "old" thread, but this article makes for an interesting read. Clearly autonomous driving technologies are in their infancy today, but in 15-20 years, it may be a different story.
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...-Driving_Cars/
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...-Driving_Cars/
03-10-17, 06:04 AM
#386
Pole Position
From Club Lexus home page.
Lexus LS600hL test bed for autonomous driving technologies.
https://www.clublexus.com/articles/t...-driving-tech/
Lexus LS600hL test bed for autonomous driving technologies.
https://www.clublexus.com/articles/t...-driving-tech/
03-10-17, 09:24 AM
#388
Pole Position
LOL. But that's the point exactly. With advances in semi-autonomous and autonomous driving technologies, today's newborns may not learn how to drive at all, let alone drive poorly!
03-10-17, 09:36 AM
#390
Pole Position
We can mark the decline of driving skills and as a civilization overall 10yrs ago when some dude in too tight dark clothing stood on a stage in Silicon Valley. The decline accelerated a year ago corresponding with the intro of Pokemon Go!