UDel

How is it going to save a ton of money if you have a just in case driver which means you still have to pay the truck driver and also implement the self driving technology which will cost more. If they eventually try eliminating truck drivers that will mean eliminating hundreds of thousands if not millions of middle class jobs which will only be bad for the economy.

Och

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You are dealing with Uber, and they don't care about destroying jobs. They have already oversaturated the market here in NYC, destroying livelihood of many thousands of taxi and limo drivers. Uber drivers, or ants as they often refer to themselves, are earning just $8.55 on average. https://nypost.com/2018/03/05/revise...irst-reported/

I can almost see Uber lobbying the government to allow for these so called "self driving" trucks to be operated by someone without commercial license, and allowing them to drive unlimited shifts. If they succeed, that industry will get flooded by unqualified drivers willing to slave away for less than minimum wage.

bitkahuna

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that's why i wrote the qualifier 'not yet'.

and it will be an economic change for sure, but when we went from horse-drawn buggies to cars a lot of people who shoveled **** for a living were out of jobs too.

UDel

Those jobs were easily replaced by auto workers, auto salesman, mechanics, car designers, dmv, gas station attendants, etc. This is totally different, the effects could be disastrous putting so many middle class out of work not mention I don't want to be on the road full of a bunch of big rigs with no drivers and buggy computer systems built to a cost hoping they don't malfunction and are able to cope with any issue on the road ways.

spwolf

and new jobs will be created by new changes as well... until machines start building machines, we are safe. lol.

Hoovey689

iTrader: (16)

Skynet meets the AllSpark

bitkahuna

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given your hatred of touch screens and self-driving cars, basically progress - perhaps you should consider moving to an Amish community.

mmarshall

UDel has a point. Opposition to an over-reliance on self-driving technology is not limited to Amish and Mennonites. And there are others here in Car Chat who also share that view.

UDel

Touch screens in cars are "progress"? There are a lot of people that would disagree with that. I call self driving cars and especially 18 wheelers terrifying "progress".

Allen K

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Just this morning I was almost t-boned by a Comcast truck that decided to run a stop sign and almost merged into by an idiot in an Audi. Human drivers are pretty bad

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

i'm sure you prefer this.



love the 9 button pad



my girlfriend's son just died because he fell asleep on an empty interstate at night and went off the road. fortunately he didn't take out anyone else as well. i wish his vehicle had been self driving.

mmarshall

That dash, itself, was considered progress over the digital-dashboards of several years earlier, but, I agree with you that is simply too many buttons.


Sad, but people, to date, have also been killed in self-driving cars.

bitkahuna

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do you mean the 1 tesla crash? that happened nearby me and tesla had obviously made 'bolder' claims about their car than reality and apparently the guy driving it hadn't used the controls for half an hour and crashed without slowing into a white-sided semi the car simply didn't 'see'. anyway, if this is the 'people' you're referring to, i'd call this more darwin award than where things are going very shortly.

mmarshall

Not every one has been publicized. I don't think anyone knows the actual number.

bitkahuna

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and thus you don't know either of those things.

and since the press and public are keenly interested (and many concerned) about self-driving vehicles, if there had been more deaths by self-driving cars, they would have gotten press.

heck even very minor fender benders when it wasn't even the self-driving car's fault have been written up.