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Old 03-24-18, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
Progress will be made but not by Uber. They are just reinventing the wheel and faaaaar behind superior companies such as Waymo.

I really hope this kills their autonomous program so no others get hurt. Uber should just let the big boys handle it.
It is actually quite revealing how these companies are competing and suing each other over autonomous driving patents, instead of trying to set a single standard. How are these autonomous cars are going to be able to communicate with each other if all of them have proprietary tech and software?

Same deal for the electric cars - they are all using different charger system instead of adopting a common standard. You can't charge your Nissan Leaf at a Tesla charging station. This is beyond retarded, and going to be a major obstacle when it comes to widespread adaptation of electric vehicles.
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Originally Posted by Och
It is actually quite revealing how these companies are competing and suing each other over autonomous driving patents, instead of trying to set a single standard. How are these autonomous cars are going to be able to communicate with each other if all of them have proprietary tech and software?
they don't need to communicate with each other especially since they will be co-existing with distracted human drivers for years.

Same deal for the electric cars - they are all using different charger system instead of adopting a common standard. You can't charge your Nissan Leaf at a Tesla charging station. This is beyond retarded, and going to be a major obstacle when it comes to widespread adaptation of electric vehicles.
it's not 'beyond retarded' it's called capitalism and competition, two things i know you hate. yeah we could wait for a government mandated charging standard and slow innovation for years. it's like saying the govt should ban apple's lightning connector because the rest of the world uses micro usb or usb-c now.

in time there will be alliances, mergers, reciprocal agreements, etc. i'm sure tesla wants to make money from the investment they made in superchargers all over, and perhaps eventually other electrics will be able to use them, for a price. but right now, the last thing tesla wants is for their owners to not be able to use the chargers because others with other brand cars are tying them up.
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Old 03-24-18, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
they don't need to communicate with each other especially since they will be co-existing with distracted human drivers for years.



it's not 'beyond retarded' it's called capitalism and competition, two things i know you hate. yeah we could wait for a government mandated charging standard and slow innovation for years. it's like saying the govt should ban apple's lightning connector because the rest of the world uses micro usb or usb-c now.

in time there will be alliances, mergers, reciprocal agreements, etc. i'm sure tesla wants to make money from the investment they made in superchargers all over, and perhaps eventually other electrics will be able to use them, for a price. but right now, the last thing tesla wants is for their owners to not be able to use the chargers because others with other brand cars are tying them up.
LMFAO, so you have a problem with government mandating common charger standard, but yet you're on record in this thread saying this?

​​​​​​maybe a self-driving car in nyc will have a way to make pedestrians get out of the way (noise, lights, pepper spray ).
it's also possible that city cameras combined with facial recognition, phone tracking, etc., could make 'jay walking' an automatic pay for activity. so each time you block traffic crossing the road when you're not supposed to the city just takes $25 out of your pocket. that 10 block walk could become expensive.
I'm speechless.
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forcing one electric car maker to give up its huge competitive advantage to others is quite different than taking steps to enforce laws, plus maybe you ignored my smiley faces.

but we're headed toward 'minority report' either way...
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Old 03-24-18, 06:28 PM
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Another fatality.

https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/24/...ource=Facebook
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Old 03-24-18, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel350
Did you read the article? If so what caused the crash.
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Old 03-24-18, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
Did you read the article? If so what caused the crash.
They don't know. It could have been autopilot.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
forcing one electric car maker to give up its huge competitive advantage to others is quite different than taking steps to enforce laws, plus maybe you ignored my smiley faces.

but we're headed toward 'minority report' either way...
I don't know about forcing, but it would be in all of the manufacturers long term interest to adopt a common charging standard.
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Old 03-24-18, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Och
It is actually quite revealing how these companies are competing and suing each other over autonomous driving patents, instead of trying to set a single standard. How are these autonomous cars are going to be able to communicate with each other if all of them have proprietary tech and software?
Again showing your fundamental lack of understanding as to how this tech works. 10 stars Och.

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Old 03-25-18, 08:21 AM
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How long until we see an autonomous car jammer.
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Old 03-25-18, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel350
The driver hit the lane divider and then was hit by 2 cars. Typical of the press, because it was a Tesla, it made headlines. If it were an Escalade, there would be no national attention. The reporter without any data brings up Autopilot.
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Tesla hits barrier on auto pilot, luckily no fatalities.

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Originally Posted by UDel
Tesla hits barrier on auto pilot, luckily no fatalities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ml6sjk_8c

Och.....looks like you got a point on this one.
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Old 03-26-18, 06:37 PM
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BREAKING: Arizona governor suspends Uber from autonomous testing following fatal pedestrian crash he says raises safety concerns.
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^^^ He must have stripped some gears in his transmission reversing himself like that, lol. He wanted to have them come over from California and reduce oversight on testing.
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