Self-Driving Vehicles
#887
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Just what Och's posted over and over...
Letting a self-driving car do its thing in NYC is dangerous.![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
https://youtu.be/2PMu7MD9GvI
Letting a self-driving car do its thing in NYC is dangerous.
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https://youtu.be/2PMu7MD9GvI
#888
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haha, gold
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Great article, and it's just what I've been saying for years. I find it hilarious that many people still believe the whole self driving fantasy. Much like I was always saying, not only full self driving isn't happening, but these half assed driver assist technologies are doing more bad than good.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/review...odel-y-review/
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/review...odel-y-review/
I can't conclusively say that it's because of the missing radar, but I can say that our Model Y is bad at detecting obstructions ahead. Really, really bad. The big issue is false positives, a problem that has become known as "phantom braking" among Tesla owners. Basically, the car often gets confused and thinks there's an obstacle ahead and engages the automatic emergency braking system. You get an instant, unwanted and often strong application of the brakes. This is not a problem unique to Teslas. I've experienced it on other cars, but very, very rarely. On our Model Y this happens constantly, at least once an hour and sometimes much more often than that. In a single hour of driving I caught five phantom braking incidents on camera, two hard enough to sound the automatic emergency braking chime. This is a massive problem. It happens on both the highway and on secondary roads, any time the cruise control is engaged even without Autosteer. It means the car's cruise control is patently unsafe, which means the entirety of Autopilot is unsafe. And that means the car itself is unsafe.
The phantom braking issue is a complete deal-breaker. Our car, which is running the latest production version of Autopilot, is unsafe whenever cruise control is enabled.
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Great article, and it's just what I've been saying for years. I find it hilarious that many people still believe the whole self driving fantasy. Much like I was always saying, not only full self driving isn't happening, but these half assed driver assist technologies are doing more bad than good.
In general, people believe that stuff because technology has been sold, today, as the answer to everything. The more complexity a system has, and the more electronics it utilizes, the more society seems to worship it.
#891
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What about accepting the concept that people like advanced features and technology and aren't in fact "duped" as you imply?
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I didn't say people didn't like them.....there are some hi-tech safety-features on my GX that I myself like. I simply said that IMO they aren't the answer to everything. Suppose you were to have a rental-vehicle without those features......or were driving someone else's vehicle that wasn't as lavishly equipped as yours, and it didn't cover blind spots, detect pedestrians, or manage the distance between you and the vehicle in front of you, etc....? Like it or not, you'd actually have to WATCH the road.
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I didn't say people didn't like them.....there are some hi-tech safety-features on my GX that I myself like. I simply said that IMO they aren't the answer to everything. Suppose you were to have a rental-vehicle without those features......or were driving someone else's vehicle that wasn't as lavishly equipped as yours, and it didn't cover blind spots, detect pedestrians, or manage the distance between you and the vehicle in front of you, etc....? Like it or not, you'd actually have to WATCH the road.
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Tesla raising price of Full Self-Driving option that still doesn't fully self-drive
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jill, would have been helpful to just add the punchline so people don't have to click the link.
fsd went from $10K to $12K in u.s.
fsd went from $10K to $12K in u.s.