Self-Driving Vehicles
05-13-22, 08:40 AM
#976
Nobody because its stupid. If anyone full throttles an Encore and aims it at a building with driver aids on, the car will most likely not brake at all before hitting the wall. A Tesla won't magically do the same thing ESPECIALLY when the driver has control of the car. FSD and Autopilot won't aim at a building because it specifically is designed to keep in a lane. We don't need an investigation to tell us that the idiot driver was the dumbass who rammed his Tesla into a building because he was seen accelerating to beat a red light. Soon as you hit that accelerator with any amount of force, the driver aids simply disengage.
05-13-22, 08:49 AM
#977
Lexus Test Driver
No. I don't think any driver aid system can do that. A Tesla has very limited set of actions that interrupt the driver. It can emergency brake for you if it detects another car in front has stopped and you will collide with it. It can help you avoid other cars, debris or animals on the road. It won't stop you from pure stupidity like ramming a building. Its a driver aid...not Skynet.
05-13-22, 08:53 AM
#978
No. I don't think any driver aid system can do that. A Tesla has very limited set of actions that interrupt the driver. It can emergency brake for you if it detects another car in front has stopped and you will collide with it. It can help you avoid other cars, debris or animals on the road. It won't stop you from pure stupidity like ramming a building. Its a driver aid...not Skynet.
05-13-22, 09:15 AM
#979
Lexus Fanatic
Some people may be shocked to learn Tesla is trying to make it so the car recognizes all situations and responds accordingly. Of course the negative nancy's will say Elon is a fraud he hates you and your children wants you dead, FSD is killing whales and birds.
Any crash you walk away from unharmed is a win. One thing that makes me rage is news outlets constantly report crashes but never tell you how they happened and how we can learn from them and avoid making the same mistakes. Why are we not teaching people to be better drivers? I guess that's why it's necessary to make the car intervene in human stupidity.
Any crash you walk away from unharmed is a win. One thing that makes me rage is news outlets constantly report crashes but never tell you how they happened and how we can learn from them and avoid making the same mistakes. Why are we not teaching people to be better drivers? I guess that's why it's necessary to make the car intervene in human stupidity.
05-13-22, 09:22 AM
#980
Lexus Fanatic
05-13-22, 09:26 AM
#981
Lexus Fanatic
Any crash you walk away from unharmed is a win. One thing that makes me rage is news outlets constantly report crashes but never tell you how they happened and how we can learn from them and avoid making the same mistakes. Why are we not teaching people to be better drivers? I guess that's why it's necessary to make the car intervene in human stupidity.
05-13-22, 09:39 AM
#982
Lexus Fanatic
05-13-22, 09:42 AM
#983
They don't want to learn. All that matters to them is playing on their phones while driving. It's insane how many people I see looking down every 3 seconds because they can't wait to send a snapchat picture when they get home in 10 minutes.
05-13-22, 09:44 AM
#984
Lexus Fanatic
05-13-22, 12:07 PM
#985
Lexus Fanatic
Wrong on most counts.
First, I am not the loudest voice on CL about anything....in fact, on some matters, I am one of the quietest. Second, GM did design a system that works....at least for any normal sane driver. Third, I have never stated that I am completely against driver aids....in fact, some of the earliest driver-aids go back to 1912, with Cadillac's invention of the electric self-starter. Fourth, blame in tis specific accident probably cannot be placed until the investigation is done.
First, I am not the loudest voice on CL about anything....in fact, on some matters, I am one of the quietest. Second, GM did design a system that works....at least for any normal sane driver. Third, I have never stated that I am completely against driver aids....in fact, some of the earliest driver-aids go back to 1912, with Cadillac's invention of the electric self-starter. Fourth, blame in tis specific accident probably cannot be placed until the investigation is done.GM's system works no better or worse than anybody elses. The point is, those systems aren't designed to stop a driver from running into something at full throttle. They don't take over driving from the driver.
05-13-22, 12:10 PM
#986
Lexus Test Driver
You absolutely were the loudest anti-crossover vs sedan voice on CL for a long time...until you got one yourself.
GM's system works no better or worse than anybody elses. The point is, those systems aren't designed to stop a driver from running into something at full throttle. They don't take over driving from the driver.
GM's system works no better or worse than anybody elses. The point is, those systems aren't designed to stop a driver from running into something at full throttle. They don't take over driving from the driver.
05-13-22, 12:16 PM
#987
Lexus Fanatic
05-13-22, 12:16 PM
#988
It's stupid to single out Tesla or any other company, and report on crashes caused by stupidity. That being said, it is good to report on accidents that happen when self driving systems are active, maybe someone in the government will start paying attention and get this nonsense banned.
05-13-22, 12:17 PM
#989
Lexus Fanatic
It's stupid to single out Tesla or any other company, and report on crashes caused by stupidity. That being said, it is good to report on accidents that happen when self driving systems are active, maybe someone in the government will start paying attention and get this nonsense banned.