Acura RL thread(new pics, A-Spec) $49,479
09-04-04, 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by wantAnewLex
I regularly make my positions clear (and have provided numerous reasons) when these debates come up, and I think you know where I stand.
I regularly make my positions clear (and have provided numerous reasons) when these debates come up, and I think you know where I stand.
09-04-04, 03:19 PM
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I think this thread now officially has NOTHING to do with the new Acura RL. 
09-04-04, 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by bitkahuna
I think this thread now officially has NOTHING to do with the new Acura RL.
I think this thread now officially has NOTHING to do with the new Acura RL.
09-04-04, 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by bitkahuna
I think this thread now officially has NOTHING to do with the new Acura RL.
I think this thread now officially has NOTHING to do with the new Acura RL.
I would like to take this opportunity to welcome you to 2004. Jag is no longer the oil-spewing rolling leper colony it once was.
09-04-04, 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by wantAnewLex
Check my profile.
Are you some sort of fascist? What if I want to be a Lexus *****? Why do I have to be politcally correct and like all cars in order to be an enthusiast?
"Be an all around car enthusiast." What a joke! Who are YOU to tell ME what I should like and why?!
Christ, your comments are infuriating.
Check my profile.
Are you some sort of fascist? What if I want to be a Lexus *****? Why do I have to be politcally correct and like all cars in order to be an enthusiast?
"Be an all around car enthusiast." What a joke! Who are YOU to tell ME what I should like and why?!
Christ, your comments are infuriating.
Robert
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09-05-04, 10:02 PM
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Honda keeps on losing their sporty image. The car will sell, but I wonder about Honda's long-term goals.
09-06-04, 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by CK6Speed
Well, in Honda's defence the JDM NSX-R has always been thought to have more than 300HP even though it is rated at 280ps (Or 290hp). Simply put, the HP to weight calculations simply don't add up to the NSX-R actual performance if you go by its 290hp. It is more like 310-315. Even the regular NSX-T we get is probaly closer to 300HP or it really has a very effiecient drivetrain. It typically puts down 255 to the wheels which makes it a 12% loss which is very good or a 300HP car if you use the general rule of thumb of 15% loss. Anyway, I think the break of the gentlemans agreement on paper is not only for the RL but for future upcoming models.
Well, in Honda's defence the JDM NSX-R has always been thought to have more than 300HP even though it is rated at 280ps (Or 290hp). Simply put, the HP to weight calculations simply don't add up to the NSX-R actual performance if you go by its 290hp. It is more like 310-315. Even the regular NSX-T we get is probaly closer to 300HP or it really has a very effiecient drivetrain. It typically puts down 255 to the wheels which makes it a 12% loss which is very good or a 300HP car if you use the general rule of thumb of 15% loss. Anyway, I think the break of the gentlemans agreement on paper is not only for the RL but for future upcoming models.
That's what I am "supposed" to have.
09-06-04, 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by wantAnewLex
I would like to take this opportunity to welcome you to 2004. Jag is no longer the oil-spewing rolling leper colony it once was.
The new XJ is marvelous and reliability and quality ratings have gone up significantly.
I would like to take this opportunity to welcome you to 2004. Jag is no longer the oil-spewing rolling leper colony it once was.
The new XJ is marvelous and reliability and quality ratings have gone up significantly.
"I started sellin dooope back in 1986, I bought a Cadillac and a put dem thaaangs on that biaatch the brains blowed out with the white leather seats ..."
LOL
I love the XJ - great car.
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09-06-04, 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
lmao! I think I wouldn't be so harsh if I wasn't do damn hungry. This girl is taking forever to get here. Gonna eat some Roti, plantains, jerk wings and some sorrel to drink.....
lmao! I think I wouldn't be so harsh if I wasn't do damn hungry. This girl is taking forever to get here. Gonna eat some Roti, plantains, jerk wings and some sorrel to drink.....
Say man, u should keep snacks at home! Raw carrots, power bars, cashews, or a peanut butter sandwich or something.
09-06-04, 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by bitkahuna
And folks - you don't wanna be in 1Sick's way when he's hungry.
Say man, u should keep snacks at home! Raw carrots, power bars, cashews, or a peanut butter sandwich or something.
And folks - you don't wanna be in 1Sick's way when he's hungry.
Say man, u should keep snacks at home! Raw carrots, power bars, cashews, or a peanut butter sandwich or something.
09-07-04, 06:25 PM
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The new pricing has been released in the new Car&Driver issue. The 2005 RL will start at about $48,000-$50,000. Seems like a pretty good bargain considering the list of features.
A great car but not what the RL should be.
A great car but not what the RL should be.
09-07-04, 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by JLSC4
A great car but not what the RL should be.
A great car but not what the RL should be.
If you look at the percentage of GS300 sales vs. GS430 sales, you have to admit, they are focusing in the right place. The market for V8 powered luxury sedans is not large by any means.
09-07-04, 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by doug_999
I think that is the misconception that so many people on this board have. Acura does not have a car that competes with the LS430 and that's ok. It doesn't make them a second tier luxury car company IMHO. They choose to top out at about $50K and they choose to do it with a 6 cyl. LOTS of people will never buy one of their cars because of t his - but that's ok! Acura plays in its niche and plays well. I for one really like the fact that their cars have no more than one option in most cases. You get everything for one very reasonable price.
If you look at the percentage of GS300 sales vs. GS430 sales, you have to admit, they are focusing in the right place. The market for V8 powered luxury sedans is not large by any means.
I think that is the misconception that so many people on this board have. Acura does not have a car that competes with the LS430 and that's ok. It doesn't make them a second tier luxury car company IMHO. They choose to top out at about $50K and they choose to do it with a 6 cyl. LOTS of people will never buy one of their cars because of t his - but that's ok! Acura plays in its niche and plays well. I for one really like the fact that their cars have no more than one option in most cases. You get everything for one very reasonable price.
If you look at the percentage of GS300 sales vs. GS430 sales, you have to admit, they are focusing in the right place. The market for V8 powered luxury sedans is not large by any means.
I understand that their not trying to go after the LS, 7, or S class and that's fine.
09-07-04, 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by JLSC4
The new pricing has been released in the new Car&Driver issue. The 2005 RL will start at about $48,000-$50,000. Seems like a pretty good bargain considering the list of features.
A great car but not what the RL should be.
The new pricing has been released in the new Car&Driver issue. The 2005 RL will start at about $48,000-$50,000. Seems like a pretty good bargain considering the list of features.
A great car but not what the RL should be.
09-07-04, 10:07 PM
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Excellent first-drive review from Edmunds. Very favorable overall with the only real complaint being the lack of um....a V8.
The new RL is looking to be the best 6-cylinder sedan in the entire market IMHO.
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...4/article.html
Below's the paragraph related to the write-up previously posted:
"In the real world, this system has many distinct advantages. In emergency avoidance maneuvers, the car is more predictable and simply responds more precisely to what the driver tells it to do. The other advantage is from a performance standpoint. We had the opportunity to drive the RL on a closed road course along with an Audi A6, a BMW 530i and a Mercedes-Benz E320. Granted, this course was set up by Acura, but the RL handled noticeably better than the others and the SH-AWD system worked seamlessly. While we still think the BMW's steering feels quicker and more responsive, overall the Acura RL was more precise and able to get around the course faster. Plus, the RL has an almost spooky ability to go exactly where the driver points it. Even if you're no Michael Schumacher, this car makes you feel like a champ, as it makes the most of all available grip. The result is a car that handles precisely, feels predictable and is fun to drive all at the same time."
The new RL is looking to be the best 6-cylinder sedan in the entire market IMHO.
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...4/article.html
Below's the paragraph related to the write-up previously posted:
"In the real world, this system has many distinct advantages. In emergency avoidance maneuvers, the car is more predictable and simply responds more precisely to what the driver tells it to do. The other advantage is from a performance standpoint. We had the opportunity to drive the RL on a closed road course along with an Audi A6, a BMW 530i and a Mercedes-Benz E320. Granted, this course was set up by Acura, but the RL handled noticeably better than the others and the SH-AWD system worked seamlessly. While we still think the BMW's steering feels quicker and more responsive, overall the Acura RL was more precise and able to get around the course faster. Plus, the RL has an almost spooky ability to go exactly where the driver points it. Even if you're no Michael Schumacher, this car makes you feel like a champ, as it makes the most of all available grip. The result is a car that handles precisely, feels predictable and is fun to drive all at the same time."
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