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Old 09-15-04, 05:15 PM
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Default Very Thorough Article on the new M5's V-10 Engine

"A Look at the BMW M5's New V10 Engine - A masterpiece in engine construction"

http://www.mwerks.com/artman/publish...icle_594.shtml

Well written, lots of information... 3 pages long. Enjoy.

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Sex. That's all I can say. That deserves its own section in a museum of fine art.

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Sounds awesome !! Thanx for the link
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BMW clearly prefers .5L/cyl...wonder why they up'd the old 4.0L V8 to 4.4L, maybe they were just getting tired of the old Lexus 4.3L muscle.

I cant wait to see the NSX's motor, and hope Toyota rolls something like this. Absolutely amazing engine, mated to an otherwise disappointing chassis.
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Old 09-15-04, 08:10 PM
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BMW engineering is one of the best in the industry.

japanese auto makers still need to catch up. it's a truly amazing master piece
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Old 09-15-04, 08:25 PM
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hmmm Honda can build better suspensions and engines than BMW, there is absolutely no question about that. If the TL were rwd it would be best in class, it's more profitable to use the Accord platform however. The NSX suspension/steering remains vastly superior to anything BMW offers or will offer. Honda pioneered the complicated ultra-stiff lightweight ASF structure, and stiff thin alluminum allyo body panels.

You have to keep in mind BMW loses lots of money financing these M products, Toyota just doesn't have any halo-cars anymore, they will shortly. They will be superior to BMW halo products too.

The LS flagship is already superior to the current 745i, the new LS will be even better.

I would like to see BMW put together something as useful and forward thinking as a hybrid engine.
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Originally posted by LexusLuver


The LS flagship is already superior to the current 745i, the new LS will be even better.

I would like to see BMW put together something as useful and forward thinking as a hybrid engine.
I agree with these statements, but assuming you have read everything in that article, it is hard to argue that Toyota will just come out and build something better.

On another note, I'm not gonna try and summarize, anyone who's interested really should read the entire article. It's really amazing what BMW is doing, and I am now fully aware of the M5's powerplant...astounding!

I wish there was a similar artcle on the transmission and driver controlled power settings.

I can't imagine how difficult it would be to fix an electric problem that arises out of that complex ECU. Seeing as how complex M engines are, I wouldn't doubt that there will be some gremlins starting out, but overall, I really am impressed by everything underneath the sheetmetal. Everything with the design, I still totally detest, sorry BMW.

Great article BTW.

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well w/Toyota's built to run 200k+mi, I dont think Toyota will build such a highly tuned engine. Unless that mid-engined supercar rumor becomes reality.

However Toyota I believe will heavily rework all their engines.
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Originally posted by LexusLuver
well w/Toyota's built to run 200k+mi, I dont think Toyota will build such a highly tuned engine. Unless that mid-engined supercar rumor becomes reality.

However Toyota I believe will heavily rework all their engines.
Even if they buid that supercar, it'll be a 3.3L V6 that has no real purpose in driving the wheels. It's whole purpose is to recharge the electric motors, so even then, It won't be wound out like the M5's engine.

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although the engine is marvel of engeering feat, i would still prefer a Toyota 2JZGTE / NIssan RB26DETT block anyday...why? Durability....ask any E46 M3 owner today about their engines and how weak it is. BMW knows how to get the power out of the engines, but spin it up to redline a couple of times and ka-boom! Not only that, but BMW knows this, so they put a tach memory counter inside the ECU to record it to void ur warranty.....I've spun my old Supra TTs engine up to redline on more than a few occasions, while it was pushing in excess of 400hp+. I've even ran it firing with 5 cylinders, because i blew off the sparkplug electrodes, and not one single damn problem, ever!
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*bump*

Everything you need to know about the new BMW M5

http://www.bmwm5.com/articles.php?id=23

enjoy

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Attila- wow, great pics and article Thanks for sharing
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yeah the new m5 engine is just unbelievable. 500hp NA on a v10, what can i say. so nice, and it revs so high too!
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I'd rather have this in the M6
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