What is the best small wagon ~ $18,000?
10-20-04, 01:59 AM
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What is the best small wagon ~ $18,000?
Here's what I could come up with:
1.) Mazda3 5-door - ~ $18,500
2.) Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS wagon ~ $18,500
3.) Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback (wagon) - ~ $17,000
4.) Volkswagen Jetta GL Wagon - ~ $19,000
5.) Pontiac Vibe - ~ $16,000
6.) Toyota Matrix - ~ $17,000
7.) Suzuki Forenza Wagon - ~ $18,000
Am I missing anything? Which do you guys think is the best value?
Thanks.
M.
1.) Mazda3 5-door - ~ $18,500
2.) Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS wagon ~ $18,500
3.) Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback (wagon) - ~ $17,000
4.) Volkswagen Jetta GL Wagon - ~ $19,000
5.) Pontiac Vibe - ~ $16,000
6.) Toyota Matrix - ~ $17,000
7.) Suzuki Forenza Wagon - ~ $18,000
Am I missing anything? Which do you guys think is the best value?
Thanks.
M.
10-20-04, 02:12 AM
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Re: What is the best small wagon ~ $18,000?
Originally posted by whipimpin
Here's what I could come up with:
1.) Mazda3 5-door - ~ $18,500
2.) Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS wagon ~ $18,500
3.) Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback (wagon) - ~ $17,000
4.) Volkswagen Jetta GL Wagon - ~ $19,000
5.) Pontiac Vibe - ~ $16,000
6.) Toyota Matrix - ~ $17,000
7.) Suzuki Forenza Wagon - ~ $18,000
Am I missing anything? Which do you guys think is the best value?
Thanks.
M.
Here's what I could come up with:
1.) Mazda3 5-door - ~ $18,500
2.) Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS wagon ~ $18,500
3.) Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback (wagon) - ~ $17,000
4.) Volkswagen Jetta GL Wagon - ~ $19,000
5.) Pontiac Vibe - ~ $16,000
6.) Toyota Matrix - ~ $17,000
7.) Suzuki Forenza Wagon - ~ $18,000
Am I missing anything? Which do you guys think is the best value?
Thanks.
M.
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10-20-04, 02:15 AM
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Matrix starts at 15k http://www.toyota.com/matrix/ GS4fun has one.
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Matrix 2WD Manual $15,300 Matrix 2WD Automatic $16,100 Matrix 4WD Automatic $17,835 Matrix XR 2WD Manual $16,780 Matrix XR 2WD Automatic $17,610 Matrix XR 4WD Automatic $19,175 Matrix XRS 2WD 6-speed Manual $19,290
10-20-04, 02:17 AM
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http://www.subaru.com/servlet/showro...mmand=overview
At their site, u can compare models. Look to your left.
At their site, u can compare models. Look to your left.
10-20-04, 05:25 AM
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Among the cars you listed.....go with the Impreza. It has a proven All-Wheel-Drive system, good build quality, generally better-than-average reliability, good driving characteristics (though in standard form it's a long way from the Sti), and versatility for just about anything as long as you're not carrying heavy loads. I see you are in Georgia. Even though you generally don't get a lot of snow and ice there (except in the mountainous north), you DO get heavy rain and thunderstorms....and the AWD is a definite plus on wet roads, too...not just snow.
The Hyundai Elantra GT sport hatchback / wagon (which you did NOT list) offers even MORE value in some ways. The quality on recent Hyundai products is comparable to Subarus, they have a much longer warranty, and a much lower price, but of course the Elantra does not have the Impreza's AWD.
The new Kia Spectra 5-door is also being introduced this fall with about the same price and warranty as the Elantra GT...and should have about the same quality.
Good luck.
The Hyundai Elantra GT sport hatchback / wagon (which you did NOT list) offers even MORE value in some ways. The quality on recent Hyundai products is comparable to Subarus, they have a much longer warranty, and a much lower price, but of course the Elantra does not have the Impreza's AWD.
The new Kia Spectra 5-door is also being introduced this fall with about the same price and warranty as the Elantra GT...and should have about the same quality.
Good luck.
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Thanks - particularly to Sick (I'll look into the Matrix again) and mmarshall (I forgot about the Hyundai but may be looking for something a bit bigger) - but also to everyone - for the replies.
Just so you know, this car would be for my mom. She wants to replace her 2001 Sienna with a smaller vehicle that can "haul around a couple bags of mulch" ... and wants something new with a warranty b/c she thinks, for some reason, that the 3.0 liter complete with transmission is going to explode soon - out of warranty.
I haven't decided whether I could negotiate a price on any of these cars that would make a swap worth her time and the associated hassle.
Thanks again; I'll let you guys know what happens.
M.
Just so you know, this car would be for my mom. She wants to replace her 2001 Sienna with a smaller vehicle that can "haul around a couple bags of mulch" ... and wants something new with a warranty b/c she thinks, for some reason, that the 3.0 liter complete with transmission is going to explode soon - out of warranty.
I haven't decided whether I could negotiate a price on any of these cars that would make a swap worth her time and the associated hassle.
Thanks again; I'll let you guys know what happens.
M.
10-20-04, 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by GlobeCLK
But what I would get for myself is Matrix (even better, in 4WD form).
But what I would get for myself is Matrix (even better, in 4WD form).
The Pontiac Vibe AWD may be a good choice also...it is identical to the Matrix, but usually you can get a better deal on one because it doesn't have the Toyota nameplate even though it is the same car.
10-20-04, 11:53 PM
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Yes, Globe, the AWD Matrix is a good choice......but the main reasons I recommended the Impreza were , First, Subaru has more AWD experience in the U.S. than Toyota does, and, Second, AWD adds weight and drag.....and the Impreza comes with 165 HP standard vs. the Matrix's 123 HP AWD. The Matrix would probably be sluggish with AWD...Toyota, to my knowledge, does not sell the AWD with either the 130 HP or the 180 HP engine in the Matrix.
The Pontiac Vibe AWD may be a good choice also...it is identical to the Matrix, but usually you can get a better deal on one because it doesn't have the Toyota nameplate even though it is the same car.
Yes, Globe, the AWD Matrix is a good choice......but the main reasons I recommended the Impreza were , First, Subaru has more AWD experience in the U.S. than Toyota does, and, Second, AWD adds weight and drag.....and the Impreza comes with 165 HP standard vs. the Matrix's 123 HP AWD. The Matrix would probably be sluggish with AWD...Toyota, to my knowledge, does not sell the AWD with either the 130 HP or the 180 HP engine in the Matrix.
The Pontiac Vibe AWD may be a good choice also...it is identical to the Matrix, but usually you can get a better deal on one because it doesn't have the Toyota nameplate even though it is the same car.
Matrix wins in terms of utility, because my neighbor has a Matrix, and I think it's much easier to use the Matrix as a cargo carrier/utility car than the Impreza.Now if it's a Matrix AWD + TRD Supercharger that's another different story
Especially with Toyota reliability. 
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