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So the cop gives you a break by writing you up for an 80 mph per hour ticket as opposed to jailing you and taking your license away, but yet you feel it's necessary to plead not guilty and challenge it? And you admit it too. Talk about being ungrateful.
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Originally posted by jonathancl
(Oh...and for the responsible out there aching to chastise me, I am driving more appropriately now.)
(Oh...and for the responsible out there aching to chastise me, I am driving more appropriately now.)
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once I passed a bike cop doing 90mph driving rather recklessly through traffic (younger yrs), he just sat there on the shoulder and stared at me as I got on the brakes hard. Guess he didn't get a reading.
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Originally posted by verylost
So the cop gives you a break by writing you up for an 80 mph per hour ticket as opposed to jailing you and taking your license away, but yet you feel it's necessary to plead not guilty and challenge it? And you admit it too. Talk about being ungrateful.
So the cop gives you a break by writing you up for an 80 mph per hour ticket as opposed to jailing you and taking your license away, but yet you feel it's necessary to plead not guilty and challenge it? And you admit it too. Talk about being ungrateful.
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There are plenty of reasons to plead not guilty besides not having commited the offense. thats the way our system works
I guess you pay your full tax liabillity and dont take advantage of any of the loopoles or exemptions. Come on lets be for real
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The cop actually let you talk? They're usually afraid of any argument you might give them and talk over you or walk away. This pisses me off so much. I think we have the right to perhaps tell them the situation.
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Originally posted by morris
First off he wouldnt be doing the cop a favor by pleading not guilty, secondly he has a right to plead whatever he wants. For 200-300 dollars I'd plead not guilty too and hope the cop doesnt show my self. He isnt talking about getting up on the stand and lying under oath, he is simply pleading not guilty. Thats the way the legal system works, the cop may not show, the prosecutor may take a plea bargain, the citation may be defective, the method of gaging speed may have been off. A not guilty plea is the first step in exercising any of these defenses/tactics.
There are plenty of reasons to plead not guilty besides not having commited the offense. thats the way our system works
I guess you pay your full tax liabillity and dont take advantage of any of the loopoles or exemptions. Come on lets be for real
First off he wouldnt be doing the cop a favor by pleading not guilty, secondly he has a right to plead whatever he wants. For 200-300 dollars I'd plead not guilty too and hope the cop doesnt show my self. He isnt talking about getting up on the stand and lying under oath, he is simply pleading not guilty. Thats the way the legal system works, the cop may not show, the prosecutor may take a plea bargain, the citation may be defective, the method of gaging speed may have been off. A not guilty plea is the first step in exercising any of these defenses/tactics.
There are plenty of reasons to plead not guilty besides not having commited the offense. thats the way our system works
I guess you pay your full tax liabillity and dont take advantage of any of the loopoles or exemptions. Come on lets be for real
So I guess the saying is true ... it only matters if its right or wrong as long as you don't get caught.
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Originally posted by verylost
I am not really debating how the legal system works. This is simply an issue of being "man" enough to accept your punishment.
So I guess the saying is true ... it only matters if its right or wrong as long as you don't get caught.
I am not really debating how the legal system works. This is simply an issue of being "man" enough to accept your punishment.
So I guess the saying is true ... it only matters if its right or wrong as long as you don't get caught.
BUt I see what you are saying we'll just disagree on this one.
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people somtimes forget that a V1 can only do so much. Ive learned that one the hard way...
people somtimes forget that a V1 can only do so much. Ive learned that one the hard way...
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Originally posted by verylost
I am not really debating how the legal system works. This is simply an issue of being "man" enough to accept your punishment.
I am not really debating how the legal system works. This is simply an issue of being "man" enough to accept your punishment.
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Originally posted by ntran18
Personally, I have problems receiving a speed ticket from a cop who comes up from behind and tells me I am driving unsafely at 80. I can say certainty that he wasn't doing just 85 or 90. I can also say with certainty that when he gets off duty, he not driving 65.
Personally, I have problems receiving a speed ticket from a cop who comes up from behind and tells me I am driving unsafely at 80. I can say certainty that he wasn't doing just 85 or 90. I can also say with certainty that when he gets off duty, he not driving 65.
If you have a problem with the speed limit, take it up with your local congressmen, senator, etc. Don't blame the cop. He's just there to enforce the law.
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Originally posted by ntran18
Personally, I have problems receiving a speed ticket from a cop who comes up from behind and tells me I am driving unsafely at 80. I can say certainty that he wasn't doing just 85 or 90. I can also say with certainty that when he gets off duty, he not driving 65.
Personally, I have problems receiving a speed ticket from a cop who comes up from behind and tells me I am driving unsafely at 80. I can say certainty that he wasn't doing just 85 or 90. I can also say with certainty that when he gets off duty, he not driving 65.
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Originally posted by verylost
It's a good thing he got a ticket for speeding rather than reckless driving. Speeding is speeding. Either you go faster, equal, or slower than the speeding limit. There's no other way to look at it.
If you have a problem with the speed limit, take it up with your local congressmen, senator, etc. Don't blame the cop. He's just there to enforce the law.
It's a good thing he got a ticket for speeding rather than reckless driving. Speeding is speeding. Either you go faster, equal, or slower than the speeding limit. There's no other way to look at it.
If you have a problem with the speed limit, take it up with your local congressmen, senator, etc. Don't blame the cop. He's just there to enforce the law.
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Originally posted by rominl
i don't thikn he was trying to say speeding is ok. but same thing, why are they allowed to speed and drive recklessly sometimes then? and when they are off duty, they can speed all they want. if they are caught, most of the time they show their badge and they get away (i know this is true)
i don't thikn he was trying to say speeding is ok. but same thing, why are they allowed to speed and drive recklessly sometimes then? and when they are off duty, they can speed all they want. if they are caught, most of the time they show their badge and they get away (i know this is true)
You also need to remember that cops have a very special and important job. They are there to protect us. They are there to be shot at by criminals. On any given day, they might not come home to their families. Do you remember the news footage of 9/11? Which way were the police running? Towards or away from the towers?
Don't you think that the risk they take at work gives them some leeway when it comes to the law? This may be just my opinion, but I believe those who are police officers, firefighters, and military servicemen deserve way more leniency when it comes to common law.
Is possible death included in your job description?
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