The Unofficial "Winter Beater" thread !!! Post 'em up!!
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Originally posted by Technics
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And as for affording a winter beater, i need to fix some things on my broke *** SC before i even think about something else.
Ballin on a budget baby
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Originally posted by mmarshall
That Cherokee will be a good vehicle for getting through the snow...especially with those knobby tires...but it is VERY IMPORTANT that you remember a couple of things while using the 4WD:
IF it has Jeep's Selec-Trac All-Wheel-Drive option, ( Most Cherokees DO NOT) you can generally just set it and forget it....the Selec-Trac system will let all four wheels rotate independently whatever surface you are on, and vary torque on demand like on Subarus, RAV-4's, CRV's, etc....
MOST Cherokees, though, use the less-sophisticated Command-Trac 4WD system that you also find on Wranglers. This is a simple, cheap system that is generally used for off-roading.....but it CANNOT be used on dry pavement because it does not allow for any differences in rotational speed among the four wheels. Generally this is not a problem as long as the dry road is straight...all four wheels will rotate together at the same speed......but on a dry curve, THAT is where you have problems. The outside wheels, naturally, want to rotate faster than the inside ones, and the Command-Trac system doesn't allow this. So you get all kinds of problems and stresses on the tires, wheels, wheel bearings, U and CV-Joints, and driveline.
The Command-Trac system is fine as long as the road underneath of you is slippery or unpaved. But sometimes a paved road will be icy in one spot, wet in another, and dry in other places...especially if it has been plowed. So...with Command-Trac...just be aware of what is underneath you at all times....that's all.
So....to ALL of you guys with part-time 4WD systems like Jeep's Command-Trac, no matter WHAT vehicle it is on....the SAME rules apply on dry pavement.
Some part-time 4WD vehicles also have a sticker on the dash with the no-dry-pavement rule. Some...like the Ford Explorer....have selectable part-time, full-time, and low-range systems with a dashboard switch.
Anyhow........................Good luck this winter
That Cherokee will be a good vehicle for getting through the snow...especially with those knobby tires...but it is VERY IMPORTANT that you remember a couple of things while using the 4WD:
IF it has Jeep's Selec-Trac All-Wheel-Drive option, ( Most Cherokees DO NOT) you can generally just set it and forget it....the Selec-Trac system will let all four wheels rotate independently whatever surface you are on, and vary torque on demand like on Subarus, RAV-4's, CRV's, etc....
MOST Cherokees, though, use the less-sophisticated Command-Trac 4WD system that you also find on Wranglers. This is a simple, cheap system that is generally used for off-roading.....but it CANNOT be used on dry pavement because it does not allow for any differences in rotational speed among the four wheels. Generally this is not a problem as long as the dry road is straight...all four wheels will rotate together at the same speed......but on a dry curve, THAT is where you have problems. The outside wheels, naturally, want to rotate faster than the inside ones, and the Command-Trac system doesn't allow this. So you get all kinds of problems and stresses on the tires, wheels, wheel bearings, U and CV-Joints, and driveline.
The Command-Trac system is fine as long as the road underneath of you is slippery or unpaved. But sometimes a paved road will be icy in one spot, wet in another, and dry in other places...especially if it has been plowed. So...with Command-Trac...just be aware of what is underneath you at all times....that's all.
So....to ALL of you guys with part-time 4WD systems like Jeep's Command-Trac, no matter WHAT vehicle it is on....the SAME rules apply on dry pavement.
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Some part-time 4WD vehicles also have a sticker on the dash with the no-dry-pavement rule. Some...like the Ford Explorer....have selectable part-time, full-time, and low-range systems with a dashboard switch.
Anyhow........................Good luck this winter
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Agreed 100%
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As for the actual "need" for 4WD short of off-roading, I too have had many FWD vehicles in heavy snow over the years and have never been stuck, but if I head to the mountains to go skiing 4WD is my choice hands down. Much rather have 4 wheels pulling for me than 2.
Many folks use AWD and 4WD as a "crutch" without really knowing how to control a vehicle in bad conditions without it.. I feel everyone should learn the basics of vehicle control in slippery conditions using RWD first , then FWD, AWD, 4WD by playing around in a large open snow-covered lot if possible. Plus, it's pretty fun!!!
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Originally posted by Soarer_25GTT
Thank God we don't have weather liek that here in Sydney
Seems scary driving in the snow!
Thank God we don't have weather liek that here in Sydney
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Forgot to add that 14.5 inches of snow-about .35 meters.
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