Chrysler 300C, why buy any other American sedan?
#17
Originally posted by O. L. T.
Ah yes, chrysler..... the same company that just issued a full scale recall because the wheels would just FALL OFF going down the road.
Ah yes, chrysler..... the same company that just issued a full scale recall because the wheels would just FALL OFF going down the road.
#19
I rented a 300 Touring for a week. It was good in many aspects but bad in many:
Good:
Style.
Value.
Interior design and quality materials.
Decent V6 power it can get up and go.
Bad:
-Huge gaps
-Poor (I mean aweful) handling. If I go 50% throttle on a 90 degree turn the Stability control kicks in so it's like I've run into a sand bar. Feels as if engine and brakes are fighting it out. No other car I've driven has such intrusive Stability control.
-Ultra smushy ride. You can't feel when you hit a pot-hole, but when you turn or stop the car leans or bobs way (I mean WAY) too much
-limited trunk room for such a large car
-limited rear head room for such a lage car
-Seems to lack traction in the rear (probably due to tire choice). In the wet if I tap the gas it lights up the rear tires like a smoky drag strip tire warm up. (Unacceptable).
-No way to shift the AT maually. (Come on this should be easy as pie)
Good:
Style.
Value.
Interior design and quality materials.
Decent V6 power it can get up and go.
Bad:
-Huge gaps
-Poor (I mean aweful) handling. If I go 50% throttle on a 90 degree turn the Stability control kicks in so it's like I've run into a sand bar. Feels as if engine and brakes are fighting it out. No other car I've driven has such intrusive Stability control.
-Ultra smushy ride. You can't feel when you hit a pot-hole, but when you turn or stop the car leans or bobs way (I mean WAY) too much
-limited trunk room for such a large car
-limited rear head room for such a lage car
-Seems to lack traction in the rear (probably due to tire choice). In the wet if I tap the gas it lights up the rear tires like a smoky drag strip tire warm up. (Unacceptable).
-No way to shift the AT maually. (Come on this should be easy as pie)
Last edited by rai; 12-17-04 at 07:37 AM.
#21
Originally posted by RON430
Don't know about incentives but I can forgive a bit for 35K getting 340hp and AWD. At least if that AWD is important to you. Not bad value when you consider the euro and Japanese alternatives are probably the better part of 20K more.
Don't know about incentives but I can forgive a bit for 35K getting 340hp and AWD. At least if that AWD is important to you. Not bad value when you consider the euro and Japanese alternatives are probably the better part of 20K more.
#22
i must admit i love the styling, reliability, not sure yet cause this car is so new, the interior sucks, there is no way i would sell my 98 gs and buy a car with interior this cheap, the back seat felt like a boat seat, the panels are so cheap, too much plastic for me, maybe if i drove a tahoe or taurus i would buy one, but lexus to chrysler, no way, also in so cali they are still asking 5k over, if u are lucky 2000 over sticker, i would never buy an american car for sticker, can u imagine how much these owners will be losing in the next year on this car, just ask the people tha purchased the pt cruiser when it first came out
#23
Originally posted by b1gredek
i must admit i love the styling, reliability, not sure yet cause this car is so new, the interior sucks, there is no way i would sell my 98 gs and buy a car with interior this cheap, the back seat felt like a boat seat, the panels are so cheap, too much plastic for me, maybe if i drove a tahoe or taurus i would buy one, but lexus to chrysler, no way, also in so cali they are still asking 5k over, if u are lucky 2000 over sticker, i would never buy an american car for sticker, can u imagine how much these owners will be losing in the next year on this car, just ask the people tha purchased the pt cruiser when it first came out
i must admit i love the styling, reliability, not sure yet cause this car is so new, the interior sucks, there is no way i would sell my 98 gs and buy a car with interior this cheap, the back seat felt like a boat seat, the panels are so cheap, too much plastic for me, maybe if i drove a tahoe or taurus i would buy one, but lexus to chrysler, no way, also in so cali they are still asking 5k over, if u are lucky 2000 over sticker, i would never buy an american car for sticker, can u imagine how much these owners will be losing in the next year on this car, just ask the people tha purchased the pt cruiser when it first came out
Although I like the style, the interior was the biggest turn off. Looks great, but inside, it is a typical american car. But that was the Magnum.
#25
Have we forgotten the title to this thread? It says why buy any other AMERICAN sedan. So far it's been compared with mostly imports and even Lexus numerous times.
Let's compare it to GM's and Ford's. Then we will see how easily superior this car is. I can't believe the bashing on the interior it's getting. Has anyone sat in a GM product (ever)? The 300 looks like a Benz in comparison.
Let's compare it to GM's and Ford's. Then we will see how easily superior this car is. I can't believe the bashing on the interior it's getting. Has anyone sat in a GM product (ever)? The 300 looks like a Benz in comparison.
#27
Originally posted by JLSC4
Have we forgotten the title to this thread? It says why buy any other AMERICAN sedan. So far it's been compared with mostly imports and even Lexus numerous times.
Let's compare it to GM's and Ford's. Then we will see how easily superior this car is. I can't believe the bashing on the interior it's getting. Has anyone sat in a GM product (ever)? The 300 looks like a Benz in comparison.
Have we forgotten the title to this thread? It says why buy any other AMERICAN sedan. So far it's been compared with mostly imports and even Lexus numerous times.
Let's compare it to GM's and Ford's. Then we will see how easily superior this car is. I can't believe the bashing on the interior it's getting. Has anyone sat in a GM product (ever)? The 300 looks like a Benz in comparison.
#28
OK if it's only american cars, then I agree that the 300(c) is a best buy. But I still can't understand why you can't put a more quality looking interior into a car with a high end price of over $40k. This is the car's biggest flaw. Well, I think most american cars have flaws, but that's a long story :wink:
Love the power on the hemi. It has very good low end torque. I wish my stock GS had that low end power, but the GS4 would eat it up in high speeds. The handling could be better but the ride was alright. Overall, I would take it over any other american car at it's price range (haven't driven a CTS yet). But as a whole, I won't even bring in a Lexus. I'd take a Camry over it. Or Accord, or Maxima, which also has a cheap looking interior.
But no complaints about the looks of this car.
Love the power on the hemi. It has very good low end torque. I wish my stock GS had that low end power, but the GS4 would eat it up in high speeds. The handling could be better but the ride was alright. Overall, I would take it over any other american car at it's price range (haven't driven a CTS yet). But as a whole, I won't even bring in a Lexus. I'd take a Camry over it. Or Accord, or Maxima, which also has a cheap looking interior.
But no complaints about the looks of this car.
#29
Originally posted by BrickHead
LOL. I can not believe this is still happening to American cars...
LOL. I can not believe this is still happening to American cars...
#30
Originally posted by bitkahuna
OK, although more expensive I'd take an STS over the 300 every time. I even think the Ford 500 is a higher quality vehicle than the 300. I took a close look at a loaded one recently that was in a parking lot, and the interior looked NICE. Although long in the tooth now I'd probably take a Lincoln LS V8 over the 300.
OK, although more expensive I'd take an STS over the 300 every time. I even think the Ford 500 is a higher quality vehicle than the 300. I took a close look at a loaded one recently that was in a parking lot, and the interior looked NICE. Although long in the tooth now I'd probably take a Lincoln LS V8 over the 300.
Otherwise - I'm impressed with the Five-Hundred.
The Chrysler 300's interior is just unacceptable given the relatively high price and the fact that the car is built on an existing platform (previous generation E-class).
The STS is just pure sex - and I mean that; an absolutely phenomenal vehicle. If you haven't witnessed one first-hand - go have a look.
If I had ~ $60 grand just sitting around - I'd be all over the STS. Best American sedan - EVER (in my book).
M.