911carrera S or E55? (He chose the 911 S!!!)
12-27-04, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
E55. The E55 can do 9/10th of what the 911 can do and its hella faster. And can carry people/luggage.
A coupe really has to offer a substantial advantage nowadays, with sports sedans better than ever.
A coupe really has to offer a substantial advantage nowadays, with sports sedans better than ever.
12-27-04, 11:18 AM
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I agree with Mike. The E55 is less expensive, plus it can do just about everything the 911 can do and do it almost as well.
Plus, it's a sedan. And I think the E55 has a nicer interior.
Plus, it's a sedan. And I think the E55 has a nicer interior.
12-27-04, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
E55. The E55 can do 9/10th of what the 911 can do and its hella faster. And can carry people/luggage.
A coupe really has to offer a substantial advantage nowadays, with sports sedans better than ever.
A coupe really has to offer a substantial advantage nowadays, with sports sedans better than ever.
By your argument, why stop at an E55 if all you're concerned about is straight line acceleration prowess and the ability to carry people and luggage? Why not just get a Porsche Cayenne Turbo or an ML 55 AMG?
There is no comparison between a 997S and an E55 AMG. Absolutely none. The first is a dedicated sports car - very fast, light, amazing handling in the twisties and a 2 door. The other is a boosted 4 door that can blow the doors of any other car on the road only in a straight line, can carry 4 adults and their luggage, plus weighs about 1K lbs more. Why are we even comparing the two together?
e-man does not have a wife or kids, why get a 4 door car? So that he can carry his friends and their luggage once or twice a year? Is he buying the car for himself or his friends?
12-27-04, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wantAnewLex
I agree with Mike. The E55 is less expensive, plus it can do just about everything the 911 can do and do it almost as well.
Plus, it's a sedan. And I think the E55 has a nicer interior.
12-27-04, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
I have to completely disagree with you Mike on this.
By your argument, why stop at an E55 if all you're concerned about is straight line acceleration prowess and the ability to carry people and luggage? Why not just get a Porsche Cayenne Turbo or an ML 55 AMG?
There is no comparison between a 997S and an E55 AMG. Absolutely none. The first is a dedicated sports car - very fast, light, amazing handling in the twisties and a 2 door. The other is a boosted 4 door that can blow the doors of any other car on the road only in a straight line, can carry 4 adults and their luggage, plus weighs about 1K lbs more. Why are we even comparing the two together?
e-man does not have a wife or kids, why get a 4 door car? So that he can carry his friends and their luggage once or twice a year? Is he buying the car for himself or his friends?
By your argument, why stop at an E55 if all you're concerned about is straight line acceleration prowess and the ability to carry people and luggage? Why not just get a Porsche Cayenne Turbo or an ML 55 AMG?
There is no comparison between a 997S and an E55 AMG. Absolutely none. The first is a dedicated sports car - very fast, light, amazing handling in the twisties and a 2 door. The other is a boosted 4 door that can blow the doors of any other car on the road only in a straight line, can carry 4 adults and their luggage, plus weighs about 1K lbs more. Why are we even comparing the two together?
e-man does not have a wife or kids, why get a 4 door car? So that he can carry his friends and their luggage once or twice a year? Is he buying the car for himself or his friends?
Yes, I agree, the two cars are apples and oranges but DrD is choosing between the 2. I am as much as the Porsche man as you, Rominl and Bit. I love Porsches. So here are my reasons.
1. E55. This is not the run of the mill E320 or 500. This is the super accelerating, super sedan. To know this car is simply faster and quicker than a 911 gets me high. Sedans are not supposed to do this.
2. Looks. Subjective but the 997 is growing on me but still, why the 993 looks? Where is the progression? It is still gorgous, period, but the E55 is breathtaking to me. Its more aggresive and macho.
3. Utility. Yes, DrD is single and no kids but its just good to have extra space. There are tons of times you just need it, the ride with friends, going shopping, buying some furniture maybe.
4. Whoring. Porsche just has too many 911 models. We know they are coming. Carrera, S, Turbo, Convert, Convert turbo, GT2, GT3, anniversary editions, etc etc. E55 is E55 and that is all.
I have pretty much every review of the 911. They do say, the S model maybe the greatest 911 ever. Those are big words. it won Performance car of the Year already.
Originally Posted by DrDrilZ
which do you prefer? i know, apples to oranges! i was pretty much decided on a 997S and the local dealers are trying to locate the one i want right now. however, i stopped by the mercedes dealership tonite and was checking out the E55. nice looking sedan. i havent driven one but i kow they are fast in a straight line. i would imagine the porsche would be more enjoyable to drive. i have to admit hameeds thread really peaked my interest in the new 911's. so which car gets your vote? i think the porsche is the flashier of the 2. the E55 would probably look the same as a E320 to most people. not that that really matters but it does 
anyway, no wife and no kids, so the extra doors and room dont really matter. by the way, i think the E55 has better resale value. thoughts???
anyway, no wife and no kids, so the extra doors and room dont really matter. by the way, i think the E55 has better resale value. thoughts???Last edited by LexFather; 12-27-04 at 11:40 AM.
12-27-04, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I agree but if I'm not on a roadcourse or on mountain roads of the sort, I won't really miss a thing.
so let me just throw in one more factor. if given the m5 as a choice as well, then i think m5 will get my vote
12-27-04, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
well, but the handling of the e55 hasn't been all the great though, i might not need the superb handling of the porsche, but i would probably prefer more on the e55 (don't get me wrong, if you read my first post i would still choose the e55 coz' i want a big car up front before i consider a small one)
so let me just throw in one more factor. if given the m5 as a choice as well, then i think m5 will get my vote
so let me just throw in one more factor. if given the m5 as a choice as well, then i think m5 will get my vote
My longshot. Maserati. I'd give them a look. Italian flair and panace for under 90k. V-8 and RWD. Reviews state the updated coupe is MUCH better than the previous version.
My last one is wait for the Aston MArtin AMV-8. The interior is a DB-9s and it looks better. Its to be their 911 fighter.
12-27-04, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
wait, i believe the 911s, the m5, and the e55 all are about 85 to 90k?
but nah, man.... i was talking about the e39 still
the new one might perform better, but putting together with the look and style... argh
but nah, man.... i was talking about the e39 still
the new one might perform better, but putting together with the look and style... argh
12-27-04, 01:38 PM
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wow, thanks guys for your replies. let see, where do i start? as far as price, the 911S is actually a little cheaper. Im looking at lightly optioned 911S' which brings the MSRP to around $82-83K. and they are being discounted. the E55 has gone up about 3-4k in MSRP since 2003 and they have done away with the free maintenance for 2005 i believe. plus it is hit with a gas guzzler tax. i dont know why xenons arent standard but by the time u add that and some other little goodies youre looking at $85k+. and the sales guy i spoke with said no discount! as far as the new M5, i just dont like the looks. if it werent for that ugly body, that would be the perfect compromise.
and 1Sick, hit me up sometime and we can talk about cars over coffee mang! Like i said i gotta come out to a meet sometime.
and 1Sick, hit me up sometime and we can talk about cars over coffee mang! Like i said i gotta come out to a meet sometime.
12-27-04, 02:12 PM
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if power in the 911 is lacking, get the new C6 Z06.
if taking tight corners and feeling the Porsche chassis is most important then the 911 is the best option.
if powerful acceleration brings a smile to your face then the E55 is the way to go.
No doubt in my mind, the new M5 is vastly superior to the E55. It offers the best compromise b/w the E55 and the 911. Awesome price, and a real performance motor. All you get in the E55 is a avg motor w/a blower.
BMW actually spent real R&D developing the M5, the E55 is a typical MB overpriced, and underachieving.
if taking tight corners and feeling the Porsche chassis is most important then the 911 is the best option.
if powerful acceleration brings a smile to your face then the E55 is the way to go.
No doubt in my mind, the new M5 is vastly superior to the E55. It offers the best compromise b/w the E55 and the 911. Awesome price, and a real performance motor. All you get in the E55 is a avg motor w/a blower.
BMW actually spent real R&D developing the M5, the E55 is a typical MB overpriced, and underachieving.
12-27-04, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDrilZ
wow, thanks guys for your replies. let see, where do i start? as far as price, the 911S is actually a little cheaper. Im looking at lightly optioned 911S' which brings the MSRP to around $82-83K. and they are being discounted. the E55 has gone up about 3-4k in MSRP since 2003 and they have done away with the free maintenance for 2005 i believe. plus it is hit with a gas guzzler tax. i dont know why xenons arent standard but by the time u add that and some other little goodies youre looking at $85k+. and the sales guy i spoke with said no discount! as far as the new M5, i just dont like the looks. if it werent for that ugly body, that would be the perfect compromise.
Have you driven a 997S yet? You need to go out and drive one and you will be smitten. Wait till you see the infinite customization options available on Porsches!
12-27-04, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Funny but just last night, DrDrilz approached me at the Barnes in Nobles in Buckhead. What a coincidence! I was reading Automobile, he was reading Excellence. Small world and a cool dude.
Yes, I agree, the two cars are apples and oranges but DrD is choosing between the 2. I am as much as the Porsche man as you, Rominl and Bit. I love Porsches. So here are my reasons.
1. E55. This is not the run of the mill E320 or 500. This is the super accelerating, super sedan. To know this car is simply faster and quicker than a 911 gets me high. Sedans are not supposed to do this.
2. Looks. Subjective but the 997 is growing on me but still, why the 993 looks? Where is the progression? It is still gorgous, period, but the E55 is breathtaking to me. Its more aggresive and macho.
3. Utility. Yes, DrD is single and no kids but its just good to have extra space. There are tons of times you just need it, the ride with friends, going shopping, buying some furniture maybe.
4. Whoring. Porsche just has too many 911 models. We know they are coming. Carrera, S, Turbo, Convert, Convert turbo, GT2, GT3, anniversary editions, etc etc. E55 is E55 and that is all.
I have pretty much every review of the 911. They do say, the S model maybe the greatest 911 ever. Those are big words. it won Performance car of the Year already.
Yes, I agree, the two cars are apples and oranges but DrD is choosing between the 2. I am as much as the Porsche man as you, Rominl and Bit. I love Porsches. So here are my reasons.
1. E55. This is not the run of the mill E320 or 500. This is the super accelerating, super sedan. To know this car is simply faster and quicker than a 911 gets me high. Sedans are not supposed to do this.
2. Looks. Subjective but the 997 is growing on me but still, why the 993 looks? Where is the progression? It is still gorgous, period, but the E55 is breathtaking to me. Its more aggresive and macho.
3. Utility. Yes, DrD is single and no kids but its just good to have extra space. There are tons of times you just need it, the ride with friends, going shopping, buying some furniture maybe.
4. Whoring. Porsche just has too many 911 models. We know they are coming. Carrera, S, Turbo, Convert, Convert turbo, GT2, GT3, anniversary editions, etc etc. E55 is E55 and that is all.
I have pretty much every review of the 911. They do say, the S model maybe the greatest 911 ever. Those are big words. it won Performance car of the Year already.
I think anyone in a position to consider a new 997S or an E55 AMG is also in a position to plunk down another $20 - 30 G's and get a 4 door sedan for the odd time that you need to carry 4 adults and their luggage.
The design philosophy of the 911 is very simple - evolution. The reasons why it looks like the 993 is simply because that is what the owners of Porsches want. They listen to their customers. Not a whole lot of Porsche owners like the "fried egg" look of the 996's.
Porsches are still rarer to see on the road compared to all the E320's and E500's I see everyday. This new e-class is even more common than my 6 year old GS400!
