New Motor Trend $45K luxury-sport sedan comparo:
01-25-05 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
[FONT=Book Antiqua] The M35 hasn't been tested yet but expect similar results (unless the car has really bad 17" tires).
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Well, I just thought I would add to this - I'm surprised no one has posted this comparo in this thread yet but in the March Motor Trend they finally did a mid-lux comparo.... but they left out GS most likely due to the lack of availability for the new one.... But the results are as follows:
The contestants:
1. M35
2. RL
3. 530i sport
4. A6
5. STS V6
6. S-type
And that is how they finished as well. The M35 posted huge numbers in the performance area.
As far as I know, it was not the AWD.
M35 stats:
0-60-6.3
60-0-118 ft
1/4 mile-14.7@92
slalom-64.4
skidpad-.86g
The car is looking to be a beast as far as performance and value. It's really to bad they didn't get a new GS in their.... but they probably rushed the comparo so they could be the first to get one out. Anyways - thoughts?
Last edited by Vans; 01-26-05 at 06:06 AM.
01-25-05 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Vans
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Well, I just thought I would add to this - I'm surprised no one has posted this comparo in this thread yet but in the March Motor Trend they finally did a mid-lux comparo.... but they left out GS most likely due to the lack of availability for the new one.... But the results are as follows:
The contestants:
1. M35
2. RL
3. 530i sport
4. A6
5. STS V6
6. S-type
And that is how they finished as well. The M35 posted huge numbers in the performance area.
As far as I know, it was not the AWD.
M35 stats:
0-60-6.3
60-0-118 ft
1/4 mile-14.7@92
slalom-64.4
skidpad-.86g
The car is looking to be a beast as far as performance and value. It's really to bad they didn't get a new GS in their.... but they probably rushed the comparo so they could be the first to get one out. Anyways - thoughts?
Well, I just thought I would add to this - I'm surprised no one has posted this comparo in this thread yet but in the March Motor Trend they finally did a mid-lux comparo.... but they left out GS most likely due to the lack of availability for the new one.... But the results are as follows:
The contestants:
1. M35
2. RL
3. 530i sport
4. A6
5. STS V6
6. S-type
And that is how they finished as well. The M35 posted huge numbers in the performance area.
As far as I know, it was not the AWD.
M35 stats:
0-60-6.3
60-0-118 ft
1/4 mile-14.7@92
slalom-64.4
skidpad-.86g
The car is looking to be a beast as far as performance and value. It's really to bad they didn't get a new GS in their.... but they probably rushed the comparo so they could be the first to get one out. Anyways - thoughts?
E-class too old and GS too new to include?
01-25-05 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Vans
1. M35
2. RL
3. 530i sport
4. A6
5. STS V6
6. S-type
And that is how they finished as well. The M35 posted huge numbers in the performance area.
As far as I know, it was not the AWD.
M35 stats:
0-60-6.3
60-0-118 ft
1/4 mile-14.7@92
slalom-64.4
skidpad-.86g
2. RL
3. 530i sport
4. A6
5. STS V6
6. S-type
And that is how they finished as well. The M35 posted huge numbers in the performance area.
As far as I know, it was not the AWD.
M35 stats:
0-60-6.3
60-0-118 ft
1/4 mile-14.7@92
slalom-64.4
skidpad-.86g
And RL gets ranked higher than the 530i. Good for Acura too!
I'm surprised they didn't include the E-class too. Could it be because like the new GS300 the E350 isn't available yet?
Last edited by XeroK00L; 01-25-05 at 04:25 PM.
01-25-05 | 07:13 PM
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I don't know why they didn't include the E class. The magazines always get questions like that and it almost always boils down to them getting their hands on one.... probably just couldn't find one in time for the testing
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01-26-05 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Vans
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Well, I just thought I would add to this - I'm surprised no one has posted this comparo in this thread yet but in the March Motor Trend they finally did a mid-lux comparo.... but they left out GS most likely due to the lack of availability for the new one.... But the results are as follows:
The contestants:
1. M35
2. RL
3. 530i sport
4. A6
5. STS V6
6. S-type
And that is how they finished as well. The M35 posted huge numbers in the performance area.
As far as I know, it was not the AWD.
M35 stats:
0-60-6.3
60-0-118 ft
1/4 mile-14.7@92
slalom-64.4
skidpad-.86g
The car is looking to be a beast as far as performance and value. It's really to bad they didn't get a new GS in their.... but they probably rushed the comparo so they could be the first to get one out. Anyways - thoughts?
Well, I just thought I would add to this - I'm surprised no one has posted this comparo in this thread yet but in the March Motor Trend they finally did a mid-lux comparo.... but they left out GS most likely due to the lack of availability for the new one.... But the results are as follows:
The contestants:
1. M35
2. RL
3. 530i sport
4. A6
5. STS V6
6. S-type
And that is how they finished as well. The M35 posted huge numbers in the performance area.
As far as I know, it was not the AWD.
M35 stats:
0-60-6.3
60-0-118 ft
1/4 mile-14.7@92
slalom-64.4
skidpad-.86g
The car is looking to be a beast as far as performance and value. It's really to bad they didn't get a new GS in their.... but they probably rushed the comparo so they could be the first to get one out. Anyways - thoughts?
Sigh, has the S-type ever NOT been last in a comparison?
01-26-05 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Wow, this is impressive and great news for Japanese sport luxury fans. I said it before, the Germans are who these cars are going to steal cars from, not each other.
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01-26-05 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SexySC
Yes, it's good news for Japanese sports sedan, but whether test results like this will actually translate to sales numbers remains to be seen. BMW 5 series has been beating E class in magazine comparison tests >90% of the time for years but the E class still outsells everything else in this segment in just about everywhere in the world.
01-26-05 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Vans
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Well, I just thought I would add to this - I'm surprised no one has posted this comparo in this thread yet but in the March Motor Trend they finally did a mid-lux comparo.... but they left out GS most likely due to the lack of availability for the new one.... But the results are as follows:
The contestants:
1. M35
2. RL
3. 530i sport
4. A6
5. STS V6
6. S-type
And that is how they finished as well. The M35 posted huge numbers in the performance area.
As far as I know, it was not the AWD.
M35 stats:
0-60-6.3
60-0-118 ft
1/4 mile-14.7@92
slalom-64.4
skidpad-.86g
The car is looking to be a beast as far as performance and value. It's really to bad they didn't get a new GS in their.... but they probably rushed the comparo so they could be the first to get one out. Anyways - thoughts?
Well, I just thought I would add to this - I'm surprised no one has posted this comparo in this thread yet but in the March Motor Trend they finally did a mid-lux comparo.... but they left out GS most likely due to the lack of availability for the new one.... But the results are as follows:
The contestants:
1. M35
2. RL
3. 530i sport
4. A6
5. STS V6
6. S-type
And that is how they finished as well. The M35 posted huge numbers in the performance area.
As far as I know, it was not the AWD.
M35 stats:
0-60-6.3
60-0-118 ft
1/4 mile-14.7@92
slalom-64.4
skidpad-.86g
The car is looking to be a beast as far as performance and value. It's really to bad they didn't get a new GS in their.... but they probably rushed the comparo so they could be the first to get one out. Anyways - thoughts?
01-26-05 | 10:20 AM
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New Motor Trend $45K luxury-sport sedan comparo:
Test results:
1st. 2005 Infiniti M35 - $41,890 - 280 hp
2nd. 2005 Acura RL - $49,470 - 300 hp
3rd. 2004 BMW 530i - $56,645 - 225 hp
4th. 2005 Audi A6 3.2 quatro - $45,370 - 255 hp
5th. 2005 Cadillac STS V6 - $44,585 - 255 hp
6th. 2005 Jaguar S-Type 3.0 - $47,495 - 235 hp
To bad the new GS300 wasn't here yet for this battle. Next time.
1st. 2005 Infiniti M35 - $41,890 - 280 hp
2nd. 2005 Acura RL - $49,470 - 300 hp
3rd. 2004 BMW 530i - $56,645 - 225 hp
4th. 2005 Audi A6 3.2 quatro - $45,370 - 255 hp
5th. 2005 Cadillac STS V6 - $44,585 - 255 hp
6th. 2005 Jaguar S-Type 3.0 - $47,495 - 235 hp
To bad the new GS300 wasn't here yet for this battle. Next time.
01-26-05 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JLSC4
Test results:
1st. 2005 Infiniti M35 - $41,890 - 280 hp
2nd. 2005 Acura RL - $49,470 - 300 hp
3rd. 2004 BMW 530i - $56,645 - 225 hp
4th. 2005 Audi A6 3.2 quatro - $45,370 - 255 hp
5th. 2005 Cadillac STS V6 - $44,585 - 255 hp
6th. 2005 Jaguar S-Type 3.0 - $47,495 - 235 hp
To bad the new GS300 wasn't here yet for this battle. Next time.
1st. 2005 Infiniti M35 - $41,890 - 280 hp
2nd. 2005 Acura RL - $49,470 - 300 hp
3rd. 2004 BMW 530i - $56,645 - 225 hp
4th. 2005 Audi A6 3.2 quatro - $45,370 - 255 hp
5th. 2005 Cadillac STS V6 - $44,585 - 255 hp
6th. 2005 Jaguar S-Type 3.0 - $47,495 - 235 hp
To bad the new GS300 wasn't here yet for this battle. Next time.
DUDE.........! Where are the reviews, opinions, stats, etc. against one another?
We all know the hp and $ by now. Is this the most current issue? If so, it's probably in my mailbox, and I'll read it later.
01-26-05 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JLSC4
Test results:
1st. 2005 Infiniti M35 - $41,890 - 280 hp
2nd. 2005 Acura RL - $49,470 - 300 hp
3rd. 2004 BMW 530i - $56,645 - 225 hp
4th. 2005 Audi A6 3.2 quatro - $45,370 - 255 hp
5th. 2005 Cadillac STS V6 - $44,585 - 255 hp
6th. 2005 Jaguar S-Type 3.0 - $47,495 - 235 hp
To bad the new GS300 wasn't here yet for this battle. Next time.
1st. 2005 Infiniti M35 - $41,890 - 280 hp
2nd. 2005 Acura RL - $49,470 - 300 hp
3rd. 2004 BMW 530i - $56,645 - 225 hp
4th. 2005 Audi A6 3.2 quatro - $45,370 - 255 hp
5th. 2005 Cadillac STS V6 - $44,585 - 255 hp
6th. 2005 Jaguar S-Type 3.0 - $47,495 - 235 hp
To bad the new GS300 wasn't here yet for this battle. Next time.
I hope they won't include the new GS3 in any test until the GS350 becomes available here.
01-26-05 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TXSTYLE
DUDE.........! Where are the reviews, opinions, stats, etc. against one another?
We all know the hp and $ by now. Is this the most current issue? If so, it's probably in my mailbox, and I'll read it later.
We all know the hp and $ by now. Is this the most current issue? If so, it's probably in my mailbox, and I'll read it later.
Never mind....... I see above. Non surprising.
01-26-05 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jrock65
Excerpts from the MT comparo is trickling in:
".... several staffers preferred the RL's blend of luxury and performance, but others felt it lacks the visceral immediacy and tactile feedback to the steering, throttle, and brakes that are hallmarks of a true driver’s car. Second place but barely. You'll find those qualities, and more, in the first place finisher, the Infiniti M35. Though not as powerful as the Acura RL, the M35 proved the quickest, thanks to lower weight and closer ratio gearing. The Infiniti's front-midship layout provides near-perfect weight balance, and the chassis communicates texture and grain that makes the driving experience all the richer. Of course, the Infinity's cabin is hushed and exquisitely trimmed in rich leather , real wood, and techno toys , but look, traffic just cleared. Time to put down the joystick and grip that steering wheel. When the road is yours, and yours alone you'll want to be behind the wheel of the Infiniti M35."
"... like all BMW sedans over the last three decades , the 530i leaves no doubt that it is a drivers car. It has great poise, finely balanced weight distribution, and a turbine smooth in line six, and it tied for first place in Motor trend's figure eight test. So why isn't the 530i the overall winner? We found the middle BMW polarizing, some editors enjoying its harder edges but many flummoxed by the unpredictability of its Active Steering, confused by obtuse iDrive functions, and repelled by its "flame-buoyant" styling. All agreed that the third place 530i offers the least value for the money"
0-60 times
RL 6.7
Audi 7.3
BMW 6.8 (manual)
Cadillac 6.8
M35 6.3
Jaguar 7.8
Apparently, this was the only negative comment about the M:
"....some editors had issues with the layout of the secondary controls for the climate and audio systems on the center stack, particulary the ones atop the dash."
Some other comments on the M:
".... superb weight balance and pinpoint steering make this sport sedan a willing partner on any road you care to choose. No wonder the M35 smoked the competition in acceleration test and tied for first with the sport package equipped 530i in braking and the figure eight test."
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".... several staffers preferred the RL's blend of luxury and performance, but others felt it lacks the visceral immediacy and tactile feedback to the steering, throttle, and brakes that are hallmarks of a true driver’s car. Second place but barely. You'll find those qualities, and more, in the first place finisher, the Infiniti M35. Though not as powerful as the Acura RL, the M35 proved the quickest, thanks to lower weight and closer ratio gearing. The Infiniti's front-midship layout provides near-perfect weight balance, and the chassis communicates texture and grain that makes the driving experience all the richer. Of course, the Infinity's cabin is hushed and exquisitely trimmed in rich leather , real wood, and techno toys , but look, traffic just cleared. Time to put down the joystick and grip that steering wheel. When the road is yours, and yours alone you'll want to be behind the wheel of the Infiniti M35."
"... like all BMW sedans over the last three decades , the 530i leaves no doubt that it is a drivers car. It has great poise, finely balanced weight distribution, and a turbine smooth in line six, and it tied for first place in Motor trend's figure eight test. So why isn't the 530i the overall winner? We found the middle BMW polarizing, some editors enjoying its harder edges but many flummoxed by the unpredictability of its Active Steering, confused by obtuse iDrive functions, and repelled by its "flame-buoyant" styling. All agreed that the third place 530i offers the least value for the money"
0-60 times
RL 6.7
Audi 7.3
BMW 6.8 (manual)
Cadillac 6.8
M35 6.3
Jaguar 7.8
Apparently, this was the only negative comment about the M:
"....some editors had issues with the layout of the secondary controls for the climate and audio systems on the center stack, particulary the ones atop the dash."
Some other comments on the M:
".... superb weight balance and pinpoint steering make this sport sedan a willing partner on any road you care to choose. No wonder the M35 smoked the competition in acceleration test and tied for first with the sport package equipped 530i in braking and the figure eight test."
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