Possible New Camaro ?
#2
I've seen those before and word is it was by a designer not even affiliated with GM. If that were true, it would be the best GM design to come out since the original Corvette! They don't have the ***** though, they're busy making stupid decisions that are dooming a ressurection of RWD cars.
James
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#3
I too have seen those pictures several months ago. I think its wishful thinking to believe that GM will bring back the camaro let alone use one of those really cool designs.
#4
Lexus Fanatic
The green one was posted a few months ago on CL.....I can't remember if AmethySC (SexySC back then) was the one who posted it or not.
I agree it would be nice to have a new retro-looking F-Body back. ...especially with the new retro-look Mustang back and considering what a POS the last F-bodies were, quality-wise. Given the choice, though, I think GM doing a new Firebird would be a better prospect ( if they don't have the funds or budget for both )....the Firebird always had more class than the Camaro.
I agree it would be nice to have a new retro-looking F-Body back. ...especially with the new retro-look Mustang back and considering what a POS the last F-bodies were, quality-wise. Given the choice, though, I think GM doing a new Firebird would be a better prospect ( if they don't have the funds or budget for both )....the Firebird always had more class than the Camaro.
#5
First two pics resemble a Mustang, IMO, while the last one looks like a Corvette. Morphing the two designs into one car would make for a pretty hot ride, though.
GM seems to be turning some divisions around quite nicely, actually. The new Solstice is supposed to be like $19,995 including destination. I was thinking of getting a Miata in a couple years, but taking incentives into consideration, a Pontiac Solstice would be an amazing value deal at around that price.
GM seems to be turning some divisions around quite nicely, actually. The new Solstice is supposed to be like $19,995 including destination. I was thinking of getting a Miata in a couple years, but taking incentives into consideration, a Pontiac Solstice would be an amazing value deal at around that price.
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#8
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Originally Posted by ChronoJ1
What's up with all these american cars going retro. Sure, it was nice to see this trend for a while, but every friggin car rolling out is going for this retro look. It almost seems Chevy/Dodge/Ford is running out of new design ideas.
That's not to say that all new designs are unneeded. Certainly the proliferation of boxy-shaped vehicles with AWD underscores the fact that many people find this exactly what they need, and of course these crossovers and small SUV's did not exist back then. These vehicles are useful for foul weather....something that very few 60's / 70's era vehicles were.
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#9
Originally Posted by ChronoJ1
What's up with all these american cars going retro. Sure, it was nice to see this trend for a while, but every friggin car rolling out is going for this retro look. It almost seems Chevy/Dodge/Ford is running out of new design ideas.
Also, isnt the Camaro supposed to be in production by 2008?
#10
Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well..........while modern enginering is nice ( I wouldn't want a car without it ), the retro styling is the industry's way of FINALLY admitting what guys like me and Lil4X have known for years. It is not so much the industry running out NEW design ideas as it is that they ran out of the best-looking ones 35 years ago. They tried to fix what wasn't broke.....and now they finally see that it wasn't broke to start with. Some people are just slow learners though.
That's not to say that all new designs are unneeded. Certainly the proliferation of boxy-shaped vehicles with AWD underscores the fact that many people find this exactly what they need, and of course these crossovers and small SUV's did not exist back then. These vehicles are useful for foul weather....something that very few 60's / 70's era vehicles were.
That's not to say that all new designs are unneeded. Certainly the proliferation of boxy-shaped vehicles with AWD underscores the fact that many people find this exactly what they need, and of course these crossovers and small SUV's did not exist back then. These vehicles are useful for foul weather....something that very few 60's / 70's era vehicles were.
I wonder if that means Banglized designs will be retro'd in 20 years.
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Originally Posted by ChronoJ1
What's up with all these american cars going retro. Sure, it was nice to see this trend for a while, but every friggin car rolling out is going for this retro look. It almost seems Chevy/Dodge/Ford is running out of new design ideas.
#13
Originally Posted by Incendiary
Maybe you're right that designs were great back then, but Americans have a thing for nostalgia. And not only that, designs in all sorts of industries, particularly fashion (clothing, etc) have cycles. Usually things that were in 20-25 years ago are in now. Like in the 90's, bell bottom pants became hip again. Similar thing looks to be happening in the car industry.
I wonder if that means Banglized designs will be retro'd in 20 years.
I wonder if that means Banglized designs will be retro'd in 20 years.
#14
Lexus Fanatic
It isn't just a matter of going retro for retro's sake, or a bunch of aging guys like me trying to relive our youths. No, it goes much further than that.
The 1960's truly was a Golden Age in American automobile history which never saw anything like it before and most likely never will again. I'm not saying I'd want to go back to EVERYTHING the way it was back then.......carburators and breaker-point ignitions, for one thing were unreliable and a major PITA. But.....cars had class and personality, roads were uncongested, unlittered with traffic, speed bumps, and other obstacles, driving was fun, and you could get in you car and GO somewhere.....with scenery uncluttered by growth and development. Today you literally get in your car and sit still.....and look at shopping malls, housing developments, and office buildings everywhere. Gas was cheap by today's standards, though not necessarily by the income standards of the time. Automakers were free to design cars like they saw fit instead of having a bunch of bureaucrats in Washington tell them what to do.
That world completely fell apart in the 1970's, for many reasons .....(some, but not all, of which were avoidable) ......from growing congestion on the roads, expensive gas, emission controls, and a general lethargy and disinterest by the auto firms in what they were turning out, and we have never seen anything like it since in spite of recent muscle cars and the HP war.
The 1960's truly was a Golden Age in American automobile history which never saw anything like it before and most likely never will again. I'm not saying I'd want to go back to EVERYTHING the way it was back then.......carburators and breaker-point ignitions, for one thing were unreliable and a major PITA. But.....cars had class and personality, roads were uncongested, unlittered with traffic, speed bumps, and other obstacles, driving was fun, and you could get in you car and GO somewhere.....with scenery uncluttered by growth and development. Today you literally get in your car and sit still.....and look at shopping malls, housing developments, and office buildings everywhere. Gas was cheap by today's standards, though not necessarily by the income standards of the time. Automakers were free to design cars like they saw fit instead of having a bunch of bureaucrats in Washington tell them what to do.
That world completely fell apart in the 1970's, for many reasons .....(some, but not all, of which were avoidable) ......from growing congestion on the roads, expensive gas, emission controls, and a general lethargy and disinterest by the auto firms in what they were turning out, and we have never seen anything like it since in spite of recent muscle cars and the HP war.