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Old 04-27-05, 10:33 PM
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So you mean that even if the GS350 gets 315 hp like the IS350 is supposed to have, then it's already a jump of 70 hp, OK
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M A Y B E .... the guy got it wrong and it's 305hp instead

or they could be plain weird like that and have it as before with the soarer, the biggest engine model <v8 4.0> didn't make the most horsepower <2.5 I6>

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Originally Posted by AmethySC
So you mean that even if the GS350 gets 315 hp like the IS350 is supposed to have, then it's already a jump of 70 hp, OK
yeah that's what i meant. in fact that's even more power than the current gs430. the fact is hp numbers sell, the tq numbers is not understood by everyone. so that's a big hit there when the new gs350 and the gs460 comes out.

my guess is people with gs430 now won't be all that happy next yr.

so now you know why i make it so clear that i wont' get the gs this yr
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Old 04-28-05, 12:29 AM
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Oops missed a pic in my first post. Here it is from the top.
Looks great in this color. And I'm liking the new wheel style too.

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yeah i agree, finally lexus is improving big time on their wheels design. it could be better still, but they are taking the big step with the new gs
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Originally Posted by AmethySC
I have my doubts on the 350 hp too BTW . . .

Don't know how reliable these mags/websites are

Response is one of Japan's biggest online auto industry 'news' site. They publish factual news articles.
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Old 04-28-05, 05:56 AM
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Please tell me the upcoming GS350 will offer the AWD option?
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Old 04-28-05, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Lexusfreak
Please tell me the upcoming GS350 will offer the AWD option?
I think it definately will, as a replacement for the GS300 awd.
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Old 04-28-05, 08:14 AM
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The NEW BMW 5.0 V-8 makes 360hp. If the Lexus 3.6 V-6 makes 350hp, well, see what I am saying?
The Nissan 4.5 V-8 makes 335hp
The Audi 4.2 V-8 makes 340hp
The BMW 3.0 in the M3 makes 333hp and 360hp in the CSL. But that is a high strung, racing influenced engine with a 8k RPM redline.

I wish I could find the article that did say Lexus will become involved with the hp war. 350hp from a 3.5 V-6 would really shake things up. Hell the IS 350 making over 300hp with the same V-6 is going to shake thins up.

My thing is Lexus has stated it is going after BMW (no matter what the uninformed Lexus hater say)and clearly, BMW has already responded with the 335 turbo making 335hp.

Lexus with dual VVTi and direct injection, it is VERY possible. Its just that the GS 450h and GS 460 would have to have incredible power numbers as well.

And then I question is this the Lexus way of things?
 
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i think the gs350 will definitely have the awd option. it's pretty much the same engine except upsizing from 300 to 350, if i am correct?

and mike, i know what you are talking about. i wonder if it has anything to do with i6 to v6. dunno, it's probably just my gut feeling, but i think toyota got something going with the v6. their i6 engine was only doing 215hp no the is300, but somehow with the new v6 300 engine, on the gs300 it's around 250hp, but on the is350 it's going all the way up to 320hp already. that's a big jump with just 0.5L engine size increment

i can see where the challenge is against some other cars (read: bimmer), but you never know what toyota is up to. see, the new 350 engine slap hard on the 430 v8 engine. it's a big jump in power. i wonder if the next v8 engine will get some boost too.

wishful, of course
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
The BMW 3.0 in the M3 makes 333hp and 360hp in the CSL. But that is a high strung, racing influenced engine with a 8k RPM redline.
Just a slight correction here, Sick. The M3 has a 3.2L engine, unlike the 3.0L used in the 330i. That still pushes the horsepower/displacement ratio way past 100hp/L though. Impressive for a street car.
Lexus with dual VVTi and direct injection, it is VERY possible. Its just that the GS 450h and GS 460 would have to have incredible power numbers as well.

And then I question is this the Lexus way of things?
I think the question is, how is Lexus gonna market the new GS in Japan? The Japanese models due in August are GS350 and GS430. If the 350 will be making 50 more horsepower than the 430, people there are gonna have quite a tough decision to make.
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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
. . . I think the question is, how is Lexus gonna market the new GS in Japan? The Japanese models due in August are GS350 and GS430. If the 350 will be making 50 more horsepower than the 430, people there are gonna have quite a tough decision to make.
You're absolutely right, look at the lexus.jp website, that's why I have my doubts . . .

unless they intend to market the GS430 as the lower model

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Does the lexus.jp website state the HP for GS350? Btw, have a unrelated question: what's the RX330 called in Japan b4 the launch of Lexus? Toyota Windom?? or is that the ES?

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Originally Posted by AmethySC
I have my doubts on the 350 hp too BTW . . .

Don't know how reliable these mags/websites are
I agree with you. It's all speculation until the official press release is printed.
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Old 04-28-05, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BrickHead
Does the lexus.jp website state the HP for GS350? Btw, have a unrelated questions: what's the RX330 called in Japan b4 the launch of Lexus? Toyota Windom?? or is that the ES?
No, no details on the GS350 yet on lexus.jp.

RX300 is the Harrier In Japan & some other countries. No RX 330 for Japan/Europe & most other countries, they have same new body style but still only have the 300 engine.
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