INHOCJP

I'd get the 6 series. What a stunning car!!!

D2-AUTOSPORT

yeah, MBs has had their issues of late, but I think by 2003-2005 MY they had things sorted out a little better. Also I'm sure that with the StarMark program, there would be that "safety net" of factory coverage. The MB issues with the CL are more of the niggling variety (mirror doenst dip in reverse or static in radio), than with the S-class (airmatic suspension fails and car sits on ground!!).

I would have to honest as say that you may want to go check out that CL55, I figure a test drive couldnt hurt. (unless you cant control those 493 horses!!!)

Technics

What about the Carrera S? If you can find one around MSRP of course.

Gojirra99

Carrera S is a good choice but it's only a 2 seater, I think some still prefer a 2+2 coupe with usable back seats even if they are usually quite uncomfortable, just for more flexibility in case they need to carry more passengers in some situations.

lkirchner

I have a CL55 and trust me the CLS and the 6 series can't hold a candle to it. The AMG engine is a sweetheart of an engine, the materials on the interior are tremendous and the styling is absolutey beautiful. The true downside of the car is its depreciation. Buying a nice used one where someone else has taken the hit is the way to go. By the way I have not had a single problem with the car an '04.

fireballs gs400

to be honest, don't make assumptions. I have rode in a cls55, and its a rocket, But I don't see the value of it being almost 90k. And a cls500 being in the upper 60k almost 70 is nuts as well. I mean interior is typical mb, ride was nice, but it was also a brand new car. I have yet to ride in a 645, but seeing it and looking at the sticker, i was giving my honest opinion. Ask me in pm before making statements

GS3Tek

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Thank you Lou. After seeing you post this, I'm going to check out a couple CL AMGs.
Well, regarding "usable" rear seats, I don't think of any other "coupe" than a CL that have the comfy rear seats without having to ampute your legs to sit in the back

lkirchner

You are correct in that the CL rear seats are comfortable when you are in there. Entry for a 2 door coupe is also quite good but exit is still a pain.

Better than the 6 series. When I looked at them a lady was trying out the back seat. She was commenting on the fact that it was not bad when she got in. However when she tried to get out she got her butt stuck between the window sill and the back of the front seat. The salesman just stood there and had no idea how to react but her husband suggested that some body give her a good old fashioned goose. Had to have been there.

BkLexZ

Genearch you are not hijacking my thread, you are contributing to it greatly.
Fellas Im taking all of your suggestions into consideration. I drove most of the cars mentioned except the zo6 which like gene said is a monster of a vehicle but just not my type of car. I love the e55 pull, but it looks too conservative. The cl55 is a hot car but if i go with the amg i got to go used 2003-2004. I love the amg power but i get plenty of points on my license with my slow GS300. I want a brand new car. The deal with the coupe and no room in the back is this. Im 23 years old and what better time to own a coupe than now. I realize that the back seats are minimal but atleast it has some space to squeeze 2 more girls unlike the sl500 which will get you the 2 girls but they wont be able to get in unless they go in the trunk. Powerwise I think I will have enough from a 645ci or a 650i. Leaning towards the 645ci so far, but the cls is an eye catcher too.

BkLexZ

I like this pic right here I found on the web.

BkLexZ

This no sleeper either.

Ice350

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As much as I like these two and especially the 645, I have to agree with you. Fit and finish are no where near their price tags. We know about the reliability histories of these two. I'd say both should be at least 20K cheaper.

redkingjoe

i voted 645 but i personally would either buy a SC or GS.

having a BMW will inevitablely add activities to a family. most of my friends who own bmw are all repeated loyal owners...they really enjoy doing all these maintenance thingies...taking the car to fix this next week and still need to fix the same thing another week

i still remember a conversation

bmw friend: "it's a little bit scary last night...the car suddenly stopped in the fast lane of the high way"

me: " your 530 is just 5 months old"

bmw friend :"that's not the first time. the dealer had taught me that all i need to do is re-starting the engine and if the first re-start doesn't work than just try a few more time"

me: "really?"

bmw friend: "luckily no car was following me...i just re-started the engine and the car run greatly"

doug_999

Assumptions? Never! Educated guess? Yep. My comment is based on the fact that both of these cars outperform the new GS and are in a completely different class. I also "guessed" (and rightly so) that had you driven either of them, you would not have made that comment.

BUT, you are correct, I should have PM'd you instead of posting my comment. Sorry about that.

LexFather

If you look in the 3GS forum, we have had people cross shop the 2. And the GS was picked OVER the CLS in the European magazine CAR comparo, which says tons about the GS (both lost behind the 5 series)
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...&highlight=cls

I can scan pics if u want

A CLS is the E-class platform with a widened TRACK, different body and interior.

How about this. And I would pick the CLS over the 650. But OMG, the M6 just really looks so much better, IMO.


Panoz is based in north Atlanta, and I saw this recently. Gorgous.