We're headed for $3 a gallon SOON($3 is NOW 8/31/05, crap)
08-12-05, 05:39 PM
#46
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Originally Posted by Dx3
For some reason locally everyone has gotten rid of 93 octane and we are now maxxing at 91 
Anyone know why this might be?
Jonny
Anyone know why this might be?
Jonny
I know we got a little off topic on some of the posts here, but these IMO are some important points.
We are approaching $3.00 a gallon ( $2.94) for 93-octane now in my home town ( Vienna, VA ) in the DC area. 87 octane is over $2.70. This is a record my neighborhood...which means that it is easily over $3.00 in some places right across the river in DC and MD...which traditionally have higher gas taxes.
But.......come on, guys, truthfully ........are ANY of you really surprised? We've been talking about this for months and months at CL. We knew it was coming. I've said for months we would be well over $3.00 nationwide by the middle of 2006. California, for several reasons, will likely be even higher. Now.......I don't WANT it or enjoy it any more than the rest of you..... ( I have to pay for it out of my own pocket too)........ but it is inevitable to some extent with exploding world demand and limited resources.
Last edited by mmarshall; 08-12-05 at 05:54 PM.
08-12-05, 09:28 PM
#47
I was a wee kiddie in the 70's so the OPEC crunch was of little concren. What has me is that this has loomed for decades and yet the reliance on imported fossil fuels remians. This is a hard spot to be in knowing how this country relies on fossil fuels. We are seeing a slow change but it needs to be picked up and run with.
The use of these fuels for our cars isn't likely to change. Seeing the little boxes motoring around in Japan, I understood darn well why. While I enjoy driving this car, my image isn't dictated by it. If gas maintains this climb, I'll consider driving an econo box and using the funds toward other pursuits.
However, if the upcoming LS hybrid delivers a modest level... (Being wishy-washy.)
This leads to the unwillingss of the American buyer...which I too suffer.
The use of these fuels for our cars isn't likely to change. Seeing the little boxes motoring around in Japan, I understood darn well why. While I enjoy driving this car, my image isn't dictated by it. If gas maintains this climb, I'll consider driving an econo box and using the funds toward other pursuits.
However, if the upcoming LS hybrid delivers a modest level... (Being wishy-washy.)
This leads to the unwillingss of the American buyer...which I too suffer.
08-13-05, 07:31 AM
#53
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Originally Posted by Richie
Your gas is still cheap!!!!
I'm paying more than double your prices
I'm paying more than double your prices
Same as in most of the rest of Europe.
08-14-05, 01:15 AM
#55
Originally Posted by bitkahuna
How do you guys feel about it? Will it affect how much you drive? What you drive?
Me - no changes...
Me - no changes...
now its 2.71 and thats IF it doesnt go up again tomorrow. Everyday I drove by the gas station it had risen 10 cents... this is RIDICULOUS!!! WTF IS GOIN ON?!?
08-14-05, 03:18 AM
#56
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
True, Richie.....but consider.....in Holland, you're not paying most of that ultra-high price for just GAS. You're ACTUALLY paying it to support the bureaucrats in Amsterdam.
Same as in most of the rest of Europe.
Same as in most of the rest of Europe.
But yeah, the rest is spot on!!!
08-14-05, 02:23 PM
#57
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Originally Posted by Richie
Dude, the bureaucrats are in The Hague
But yeah, the rest is spot on!!!
But yeah, the rest is spot on!!!
Anyhow, the gist of the point......Europe taxes fuel like a S.O.B. I hope that at least the roads there are smoother and better-maintained there than here as a result. Some of the roads and bridges here in the U.S. are awful....particularly in Northeastern cities and the Great Lakes snow belt.
There are some clues and indications that that is the case. Euro-spec cars often come with stiffer suspensions and tires than U.S. spec cars do.....presumably because of smoother roads there that allow use of stiffer components without an unduly harsh ride or impact damage?
08-14-05, 03:36 PM
#58
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
OK, you partially got me on that one...I wasn't sure just what city in Holland is the official government capital now...it has changed since I was a kid.
Anyhow, the gist of the point......Europe taxes fuel like a S.O.B. I hope that at least the roads there are smoother and better-maintained there than here as a result. Some of the roads and bridges here in the U.S. are awful....particularly in Northeastern cities and the Great Lakes snow belt.
There are some clues and indications that that is the case. Euro-spec cars often come with stiffer suspensions and tires than U.S. spec cars do.....presumably because of smoother roads there that allow use of stiffer components without an unduly harsh ride or impact damage?
Anyhow, the gist of the point......Europe taxes fuel like a S.O.B. I hope that at least the roads there are smoother and better-maintained there than here as a result. Some of the roads and bridges here in the U.S. are awful....particularly in Northeastern cities and the Great Lakes snow belt.
There are some clues and indications that that is the case. Euro-spec cars often come with stiffer suspensions and tires than U.S. spec cars do.....presumably because of smoother roads there that allow use of stiffer components without an unduly harsh ride or impact damage?
Most of the money is spend elsewhere.
The condition of the roads has gotten worse in the last couple of years. Mainainance has been postponed and new roads are not being built.
I don't know if this is the case all over Europe, but it is here in Holland and I think we have the highest gas prices in Europe now.
08-14-05, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
17 with a GS430 and all those mods? Cry me a river. 
lol thats awesome. i'm 21 with a GS400, thats more reasonable hehe...anyways, gas is currently at around $2.88 for premium in the chicago burbs...
08-14-05, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by INHOCJP
I usually have to fill up once a week. With gas prices rising ($3.05 for 91 in San Diego), the 450H is starting to look more attractive.
