OK, I assume the 21-23 mpg is on the RL you have. Thanks very much for that. I was a little afraid of that. WIthout getting all wound up in V8 vs V6, you pay a price for 300HP whether its 6, 8, 5, 2, 10 or 16 cylinders. It is a bit better than my GS4 and right in the range of my wife's GS3 although she doesn't have 300 hp to play with. Wish I had less going on in the next month, the price on this thing is really tempting me. I assume that active sound deadening makes it very quiet as well. Our GSs are not very quiet.

 

What he said. But it does happen. And it is devastating on a brand, especially because it seems to happen more to mfrs that want to move into the luxury ranks. Let's be honest, when the next RL comes out, no matter how good it is, we are all going to rightly dump on it after this experience. At the least we will recommend if you are considering buying the nextgen RL to wait a year and see if Acura slashes the price.

But this is not meant to be construed that at 40K this thing isn't a flat out buy.

 

All right, I didn't have the guts to post it but I couldn't agree more. At 40K I would also take it over the current GS. And I am still thinking about taking it over the last GS, my wifes. I would also take it over a lot of other cars. I don't know for sure and please before any bimmer fanatics take offense, and we know how easy it is to tick you off, I would like to know how much cheaper this is than a 530. I would also take this car over a 530 and enjoy its ownership experience over a bimmer anyday. And a Jag, and an Audi, and an Infiniti, etc.

 

One more thought, and this might be better in a new thread, but does anyone think there is more going on here than an issue with the RL? Have gas prices, maybe a seriously slowing economy, and in all honesty some disappointment with the new gen (and prices) cars finally caught up with luxo barges? I have a feeling that sales are still fairly robust but is what is going on with the RL going to be spreading? I have to admit, I am a bit surprised that you can already get somewhat healthy discounts on the GS. I know I am disapointed in the new GS and do not plan on replacing my current GSs with the new GS but it is still a Lexus. I am also not in the market for a Volvo S80 T6 but I was surprised at the discounts on it too. And of course you have those dogoned Amerucan cars putting out big hp numbers at low prices, at least relative to most of what we discuss here. So does anyone else think that the luxo brands in general may be in for a rougher time. And of course the silver lining is will those of us who may be able to stick with them be able to get some good deals if we wait a bit? How about that for greedy capitalist pig?

 

Well I am surprised its Acura as AlwaysLate has a Hummer H3.. Maybe we should start another Hummer thread for him?

 

I'm closing this thread because of the downhill trend....

AlwaysLate,

I haven't read this thread at all until just now, and I read it top to bottom.... your comment, while 'mostly' within forum rules definitely come across as agressive and impolite. There are a few areas you have definitely breached

You haven't been on our forum for long, but we try to foster a sense of community and knowledge sharing. The acrid tactic you've taken on this thread is not one that will be long tolerated. There are plenty of ways to state your position without making your replies personal and borderline insulting.

While 1Sick was particpating (and not moderating) the thread, there was absolutely no need to pay him the disrepect you did.

At the end of the day, however, make no mistake that we are a Lexus community. There will be some bias against other brands you should expect... feel free to debate them, but do so politely or a couple of other rules will come into play.

 

LOL. I own a Hummer? News to me. Speaking of Hummers though, did you ever go and test drive the H3 the next week like you said a couple months ago? Still waiting on your 1SICKREVIEW!!!!!!!

 

LOL. I own a Hummer? News to me. Speaking of Hummers though, did you ever go and test drive the H3 the next week like you said a couple months ago? Still waiting on your 1SICKREVIEW!!!!!!!

Anyways, enough of that.

Okay, let me present the question of whether the RL is worth $50,000 or not compared to it's closest competitors, the M35x and the GS300X. Seems like many people seem to agree that it's worth the $40,000 that Downey is selling it for but not much more. This is also really annoying cause I've posted this saaaame question several times but it seems like either nobody wants to answer, or they are just too afraid to admit to something. Okay here goes.... Comparably equipped Acura RL's, Infiniti M35x's and Lexus GS300X's all go for AROUND the same price, with the Acura RL being the cheapest. The Acura RL has been said to have better build quality AND materials than the other two. It has more standard horsepower, tied for largest motor, and offers technology that the other two don't, yet still at a cheaper price. Interior size wise, all three cars differ less than an inch in I believe all areas of measurement. Exterior size wise, the RL is the largest of the group. Yada yada, the list goes on. So question is, with this little being said about the RL vs the competition and the RL having the lowest MSRP, could it be said that the Infiniti and Lexus are too not worth much more than $40,000 when fully loaded? If not, I'd like to know the reasoning behind the answer. And PLEASE, do NOT steer even more off-topic than we ALL already have and bring other things into this. I'm just looking for a yes or no answer with an explanation if needed. Not sales numbers and brand prestige or anything of the sort. Anything more will just be pointless and won't be contributing to this discussion. Thanks.

 

AlwaysLate,

Thank you for continuing the exact same behaviour after my warning.

You are no longer welcome on ClubLexus.