1SICKPUBLICTRANSPORTATION. (the public transportation thread)
#16
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Well, I'll get into more detail but I am a little excited that last week I took public transportation fully or partially to work. Its bigger than gas, I have a new job and its much further away from home. So I did some research and lo and behold, there is a bus stop right in front my building. I do have to transfer to a train but so far, it really hasn't been bad, since I get to read and catch up on my car mags while I ride the bus/Train.
Atlantas public transportation system is called MARTA (itsmarta.com). More to come soon, with a review in another thread.
Has anyone else made the move to try or use public transportation in their area?
Atlantas public transportation system is called MARTA (itsmarta.com). More to come soon, with a review in another thread.
Has anyone else made the move to try or use public transportation in their area?
#18
Originally Posted by DC52E55
i actually like the older buses from AC Transit. The seatslay out of new Van Hool buses are so uncomfortable and very awakward.
Up in my neck of the woods, WestCAT and the County Connection are the local bus services. Both of them connect at BART, WestCAT goes to Del Norte, while County Connection serves all the BART stations from North Concord to Orinda and the Dublin/Pleasanton station. I take the WestCAT JX from Hercules if I have to go on BART during commute hours. AC Transit's Transbay LA is a great alternative to BART where i live, just park my car at Richmond Parkway TC and hop on.
#19
Originally Posted by nthach
Up in my neck of the woods, WestCAT and the County Connection are the local bus services. Both of them connect at BART, WestCAT goes to Del Norte, while County Connection serves all the BART stations from North Concord to Orinda and the Dublin/Pleasanton station. I take the WestCAT JX from Hercules if I have to go on BART during commute hours. AC Transit's Transbay LA is a great alternative to BART where i live, just park my car at Richmond Parkway TC and hop on.
#20
Originally Posted by flipside909
Geeze I remember when WestCat was only door to door back in the day. And A/C Transit ran the Bart Express Lines J & Q. Gillig Phantoms were the OG buses to ride in hahaha.
#21
Originally Posted by nthach
WestCAT just borrowed 4 Gillig Phantom Suburbans from WHEELS in Pleasanton to run the WestCAT Lynx from SF to Hercules. And AC Transit didn't run BART Express, Laidlaw ran BART Express, i recall seeing white Gillig Phantoms at the Laidlaw yard when in Richmond when I was a kid, by the yellow Ward and Wayne school buses.
Last edited by flipside909; 09-20-05 at 11:24 PM.
#22
Originally Posted by flipside909
Haha this is where you are limited in knowledge and you probably weren't even born yet. The original J & Q lines...as well as the other original Bart Express lines (former and some current AC Transit lines U, UL, PE, etc) were ran exclusively by AC Transit. Laidlaw picked it up around 1987-88. WestCat picked it up more recently. All the Bart Express lines were always run with 40ft. Gillig Phantoms. WestCat started with a fleet of Dodge Ram Wide Vans as they were a dial a ride only. Later around 1987 they stepped up into those Ford Econoline mini buses for the fixed routes. Not until the early 90s did they go with Thomas buses and the latest Gillig Phantoms. I may still have some old AC Transit and Laidlaw Bart Express brochures hiding somewhere. I'll have to scan them in. I still remember when Richmond Parkway was non existent, and the only way to get to Laidlaw's yard was on Atlas Road. I still recall when Hilltop Mall had an Emporium Capwells. How about you?
#23
Originally Posted by mmarshall
Yes...the Federal government pays me a $100 subsidy each month to cover commuting expenses, so why not? I save my car....and miles.....for my OWN time.
#24
As can be seen from even this sample of comments, public transportation works for some, and not for others. The service, availability, convenience, and price varies widely.
Yet social utopianists keep pressing for everyone to take public transportation everywhere to get rid of the 'evil car' and these folks also think we should massively increase gasoline taxes to 'encourage' people to do this. Nevermind the fact it hasn't worked anywhere. Public transportation is more popular where cars are really impractical and expensive, like in Manhattan.
Where I was born, in England, the socialists are still plugging for public transportation and still raising taxes and fees on cars endlessly. It's still not working, and get this, public transportation became SO BAD they privatized it. And guess what? Private mass transit is EXPENSIVE, because it's really expensive to run a train or bus service. So guess what? People use their cars instead, despite the gas costs. But it's not just the costs, it's the convenience of going exactly from point a to b, and almost always, the huge time savings, and also a private space something becoming rarer and rarer.
Yet social utopianists keep pressing for everyone to take public transportation everywhere to get rid of the 'evil car' and these folks also think we should massively increase gasoline taxes to 'encourage' people to do this. Nevermind the fact it hasn't worked anywhere. Public transportation is more popular where cars are really impractical and expensive, like in Manhattan.
Where I was born, in England, the socialists are still plugging for public transportation and still raising taxes and fees on cars endlessly. It's still not working, and get this, public transportation became SO BAD they privatized it. And guess what? Private mass transit is EXPENSIVE, because it's really expensive to run a train or bus service. So guess what? People use their cars instead, despite the gas costs. But it's not just the costs, it's the convenience of going exactly from point a to b, and almost always, the huge time savings, and also a private space something becoming rarer and rarer.
#25
Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Nice perk from our tax dollars.
And the Federal Government is not alone. Many organizations today, public and private, give their employees a transit subsidy.
#26
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
As can be seen from even this sample of comments, public transportation works for some, and not for others. The service, availability, convenience, and price varies widely.
Yet social utopianists keep pressing for everyone to take public transportation everywhere to get rid of the 'evil car' and these folks also think we should massively increase gasoline taxes to 'encourage' people to do this. Nevermind the fact it hasn't worked anywhere. Public transportation is more popular where cars are really impractical and expensive, like in Manhattan.
Where I was born, in England, the socialists are still plugging for public transportation and still raising taxes and fees on cars endlessly. It's still not working, and get this, public transportation became SO BAD they privatized it. And guess what? Private mass transit is EXPENSIVE, because it's really expensive to run a train or bus service. So guess what? People use their cars instead, despite the gas costs. But it's not just the costs, it's the convenience of going exactly from point a to b, and almost always, the huge time savings, and also a private space something becoming rarer and rarer.
Yet social utopianists keep pressing for everyone to take public transportation everywhere to get rid of the 'evil car' and these folks also think we should massively increase gasoline taxes to 'encourage' people to do this. Nevermind the fact it hasn't worked anywhere. Public transportation is more popular where cars are really impractical and expensive, like in Manhattan.
Where I was born, in England, the socialists are still plugging for public transportation and still raising taxes and fees on cars endlessly. It's still not working, and get this, public transportation became SO BAD they privatized it. And guess what? Private mass transit is EXPENSIVE, because it's really expensive to run a train or bus service. So guess what? People use their cars instead, despite the gas costs. But it's not just the costs, it's the convenience of going exactly from point a to b, and almost always, the huge time savings, and also a private space something becoming rarer and rarer.
#27
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Yeah, MARTA is just ridiculous. I end up driving one way or the other. The fare keeps going up, $1.75 now.
Does your employer give you one? If not, look into the possibility of getting a group plan with your fellow employees. I'm not a lawyer, but I think if your employer offers an organized system to all of you, your organization or buisness may qualify for a Federal tax break....the government encourages this.
As car people, of course we all like to drive and spend time in our cars ( I especially love my new one) but given a choice, I would rather put the miles on my car for my own enjoyment....or necessity.....than use it as a commuting tool every day in the second-worst rush-hour traffic in the country. ( your Atlanta-area traffic, I believe, now ranks third )
Last edited by mmarshall; 09-22-05 at 05:54 PM.
#28
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
That's cheap compared to the D.C.-area Metro Subway. Fares run between $2.15 and $3.90 one-way....and $3.50 to $4.00 a day to park. However, the transit subsidy helps somewhat.
Does your employer give you one? If not, look into the possibility of getting a group plan with your fellow employees. I'm not a lawyer, but I think if your employer offers an organized system to all of you, your organization or buisness may qualify for a Federal tax break....the government encourages this.
As car people, of course we all like to drive and spend time in our cars ( I especially love my new one) but given a choice, I would rather put the miles on my car for my own enjoyment....or necessity.....than use it as a commuting tool every day in the second-worst rush-hour traffic in the country. ( your Atlanta-area traffic, I believe, now ranks third )
Does your employer give you one? If not, look into the possibility of getting a group plan with your fellow employees. I'm not a lawyer, but I think if your employer offers an organized system to all of you, your organization or buisness may qualify for a Federal tax break....the government encourages this.
As car people, of course we all like to drive and spend time in our cars ( I especially love my new one) but given a choice, I would rather put the miles on my car for my own enjoyment....or necessity.....than use it as a commuting tool every day in the second-worst rush-hour traffic in the country. ( your Atlanta-area traffic, I believe, now ranks third )
Hmmm, thanks, I will check that out first thing Monday.
#29
For us at the University of Washington, students can get a U-Pass that's $40 dollars or so added to your tuition that allows use of buses, ligth rail, and commuter trains AT NO COST! You just show them your ID card with the sticker on it and you can get on and off at your pleasure. With a deal like this, seeing as how I work more than walking distance and go home often, it's the way to do it. Over summer I took a full course load and had a 40-50 min commute each way, and figured I'll just take the bus rather than wearing out my car and burning gas. It was $2.50 each way without a pass, so I got my money's worth in 2 weeks. Excellent system.
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