Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

IS 350 watch out! C350 0-60 in 5.5 seconds! (btw, its a manual)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-10-05, 12:32 PM
  #31  
mkorsu
Zombie Slayer
 
mkorsu's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: East Bumble F, NJ
Posts: 6,053
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TheRupp
Just didn't add up to me, especially when the 330i can't get below 6 seconds with a manual and the smaller (and probably lighter) 255hp 3.0
I agree with you there. But sometimes, cars with the same horsepower and similiar wrights end up having very different acceleration times. Other factors to consider are rear end ratio, suspension setup, transmission, etc. All these other factors can greatly change the performance of a vehicle.
mkorsu is offline  
Old 10-10-05, 12:47 PM
  #32  
KVA
Lexus Champion
 
KVA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: CA
Posts: 2,702
Received 15 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
...This was AMG C32/C43 time!!
lol...I will race one of those any day of the week if they think they can best my C32. C32 numbers are almost identical to the C55 (depending on what you read or who you talk to) and has been demonstrated multiple times on mbworld.org that through the 1/4 they are very close with the 55 ultimately winning at the high-end. It's very give-and-take with the M3 as well.

I would be willing to bet that the C43 would also hand the C350 is **** every single time...

I would imagine that the IS350 would also easily win against the C320 replacement. Only thing negative about the IS is the lack of a manual tranny option...

The negative about the C350 is that is costs over $50K fully loaded...basically you are in C55 territory at that price with many of the options as standard equipment but no manual tranny. For the same price you are looking at a very nicely modded IS350.
KVA is offline  
Old 10-10-05, 12:50 PM
  #33  
foofighter
Lexus Test Driver
 
foofighter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 1,362
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Kaban
That may take a lot of arm twisting for Mercedes to start using CVT, mainly because it's a Volkswagon thing. Those Germans pride themselves on being the innovators of advance technologies so even if CVT is advanced enough MB will still be hard pressed to adopt it.
and that lovely CVT tranny in the audi's are failing...and Audi knows it and are merely having their tech's do band-aid fixes to them. Failures are occuring as early as 10k through 50k and these trannies are not cheap to replace either.
foofighter is offline  
Old 10-10-05, 07:03 PM
  #34  
LexusLuver
Lexus Test Driver
 
LexusLuver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 954
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

need a 1/4mi time for this thread to have any meaning
0-60 times are of little use

doesn't sound like the engine is underated in the slightest to me.
a 268hp 5spd Avalon clocked 6.0sec not too long ago.

C350
20/29

IS350
21/28

Avalon
22/31

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=8
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...on/index2.html
LexusLuver is offline  
Old 10-10-05, 09:21 PM
  #35  
XeroK00L
Lexus Fanatic
 
XeroK00L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: The Bay Area, CA, USA
Posts: 5,813
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by XeroK00L
Hey Sick thanks for the heads up but you didn't mention which transmission C&D's C350 test car had... The 0-60 acceleration time of 5.5s sounds more like a result of a manual gearbox to me. The C350 Sport comes standard with a 6-speed manual, and optionally a 7-speed auto for $1,410.
Thanks for renaming the thread title so that we now know it's a manual. With a slightly higher horsepower and more torque, the manual C350 getting from 0 to 60mph in 0.1 sec faster than a manual 330i (tested by C&D in 5.6 secs) only makes sense. Now all that is left to know is how much faster than 5.1 secs a manual IS350 will be if one comes out.
XeroK00L is offline  
Old 10-12-05, 07:59 PM
  #36  
Johnny Rad
Instructor
 
Johnny Rad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: UT
Posts: 854
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

From a friend who sells Lexus ... a colleague reported 0-60mph in 5.3sec for the IS350 (in car GPS set-up) during a ride and drive, which isn't very far off from Car & Driver's almost un-believable 5.1sec time. I didn't believe the C&D time, but now I'm thinking this car is just that fast!
Johnny Rad is offline  
Old 10-12-05, 10:22 PM
  #37  
Bean
Lexus Fanatic

iTrader: (1)
 
Bean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 5,218
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mkorsu
I agree with you there. But sometimes, cars with the same horsepower and similiar wrights end up having very different acceleration times. Other factors to consider are rear end ratio, suspension setup, transmission, etc. All these other factors can greatly change the performance of a vehicle.
ok so an automatic tranny vs a manual? and the rear end won't be THAT different, sorry... we're not dealing with american V8s that run a 2.73 or 2.59 rear end ratio here... its a typical import and is running somewhere between 3.5 and 4.5 just like all the other import 'sporty' cars.
Bean is offline  
Old 10-12-05, 10:25 PM
  #38  
Bean
Lexus Fanatic

iTrader: (1)
 
Bean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 5,218
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LexusLuver
need a 1/4mi time for this thread to have any meaning
0-60 times are of little use

doesn't sound like the engine is underated in the slightest to me.
a 268hp 5spd Avalon clocked 6.0sec not too long ago.
No, it was a 280hp Avalon in a 3500lb car... and it is also rumored to be underrated. (all the newer GR motors are)

306hp in a 3500lb car doesnt equal up to 104mph trap speeds... if it did then the 98 GS400 which weighed about the same that made 300hp would be running 102ish traps... not 97-98 like it does stock.
Why? easiest explanation is that its underrated by about 25hp
or that the car weighs a good bit less than stated (which i think 3500 is right on considering the chassis is from the GS)...
or that the 6 speed auto is HELLA more efficient than for which we give it credit...

or it might be a combination of all these things

Last edited by Bean; 10-12-05 at 10:28 PM.
Bean is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
arosc3
SC- 1st Gen (1992-2000)
22
08-02-12 03:57 AM
Righteous
IS - 1st Gen (2001-2005)
8
02-26-06 09:57 PM
ShooExpert
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013)
33
01-12-06 12:02 PM
Title101
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013)
3
09-26-05 06:32 AM



Quick Reply: IS 350 watch out! C350 0-60 in 5.5 seconds! (btw, its a manual)



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:20 AM.