Drove the 550i today - big mistake
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Originally Posted by newr
I was curious as to what other packages and options included in a 550 that added up to 66K so I went to their site and checked it out. I am a performance oriented so I chose these options.
MSRP $57,400
Distination $670
Options & Packages.
Cold Weather Package+ $750
Premium Sound Package+ $1,800
Sport Package+ $2,300
Sequential Manual Gearbox (SMG)+ $0
Active Steering+ $1,250
BMW On-Board Navigation System+ $1,800
Rear Seat Heating+ $350
Power Rear Sunshade/Manual Rear Side Window Shades+ $575
4yrs/50K miles maintainance service included.
TOTAL $66,895
Does everyone think the GS430 or the M45 will be able to compete with the 550?
MSRP $57,400
Distination $670
Options & Packages.
Cold Weather Package+ $750
Premium Sound Package+ $1,800
Sport Package+ $2,300
Sequential Manual Gearbox (SMG)+ $0
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Active Steering+ $1,250
BMW On-Board Navigation System+ $1,800
Rear Seat Heating+ $350
Power Rear Sunshade/Manual Rear Side Window Shades+ $575
4yrs/50K miles maintainance service included.
TOTAL $66,895
Does everyone think the GS430 or the M45 will be able to compete with the 550?
Unless all of the competition, Lexus included, want to really step it up, I don't see anyone really competing with the 550 on a performance basis and I wouldn't try. Heck, the 550 is competing performance wise with the old M5. GS430 (or 460) and M45 are not competition if I was really interested in the capability of the 550. The 550 may be the epitome of performance of the non-M five series. Unless there are a lot of buyers several years from now when gas in the US is at $5 a gallon that want to drive those things. Before you post on how people who buy 550s don't care about mileage, that may be true for some, but definitely not all.
I didn't look at the mileage numbers and before some new 550 owner posts about how annoying it is to stop once a week and empty the tank because it is making gasoline, save your breath and bandwidth. My guess is that in the real world combined mileage, not coasting for 100 miles from Donner Summit to Sacramento on I80 in cruise control set on 60, that thing will probably never be out of the teens for mileage and driven hard I will bet it is low teens. I just don't feel like paying for the privilege that much. I would have very few opportunities to use the 550s performance but I would have weekly if not daily opportunities to review the mileage figures. My mileage always varies.
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Originally Posted by rominl
you still haven't seen the new 3?! it's everywhere here already
i will be able to drive it hard in 2 weeks, so i am good![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
i will be able to drive it hard in 2 weeks, so i am good
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And, don't forget you CA guys often get new products before we in the East do. The down side to that is that CARB, because of emissions, does not allow some cars to be sold there in CA that we CAN get.
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Originally Posted by RON430
Bimmers always have been drivers cars. They went through a period of being dropdead gorgeous but that is behind them, once again. Went over to the bimmer dealer that is next to the Lexus dealer when my wife's car was in for service and the 550 was a bit of a surprise. Not that the sticker on the one I saw was almost 66K, without tax and license. But that buffy the customer slayer didn't have too much trouble coming down a couple of grand. That was a surprise. Still, 70K for a 5 in my driveway is pretty steep. Too steep for what you get, also IMO.
The dealer only has two slots left for ordering - car would arrive early Jan. They are hot on me to get the order in.
Last but not least, the EPA rating on the car is 17/25 - which I think is pretty darn impressive for the beast that it is.
PS - if it had the rear fold down seats and they would have got me out of my lease, I would have bought it on the spot - I was so impressed. Glad that it was missing the rear fold down seats and I could cool down for a day or two
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Originally Posted by doug_999
The car I drove was hard loaded - missing only the rear fold down rear seats (and comfort seats) - $69,500 was the sticker. Even so, I agree, the thought of writing a check that big scares the crap out of me (so much so that I'm going to drive a used 05 545 that is "only" 55K and see what the difference is). Still, what a car.
The dealer only has two slots left for ordering - car would arrive early Jan. They are hot on me to get the order in.
Last but not least, the EPA rating on the car is 17/25 - which I think is pretty darn impressive for the beast that it is.
PS - if it had the rear fold down seats and they would have got me out of my lease, I would have bought it on the spot - I was so impressed. Glad that it was missing the rear fold down seats and I could cool down for a day or two![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
The dealer only has two slots left for ordering - car would arrive early Jan. They are hot on me to get the order in.
Last but not least, the EPA rating on the car is 17/25 - which I think is pretty darn impressive for the beast that it is.
PS - if it had the rear fold down seats and they would have got me out of my lease, I would have bought it on the spot - I was so impressed. Glad that it was missing the rear fold down seats and I could cool down for a day or two
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So what was the lease payment?
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The 545i that I test drove was incredible. The handling and steering feel was just PERFECT, and this car is FAST.
I can only dream of that type of steering on my GS............But the styling is horrible inside/out and the interior plastics feel very cheap compared to the GS. Plus it doesnt have the great geatures of the GS like a good NAV and rearview camera. Still the 530i will def be one of the cars i will cosider for my next ride.
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Originally Posted by RON430
So what was the lease payment?
Of note, if I were to order the car, I would not get the comfort access or the shades. With two kids, I don't trust comfort access to either a) let them in the car when I am not paying attention or worse b) lock them in the car when I am not paying attention.
Also of note, I think the Subaru Legacy gets almost the same mileage as the 550.
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[QUOTE=RON430]
Sorry - 3 year lease, 12K per year.
They have great deals on the 525 and 530 but nothing on the 550 and if they all get ordered, then BMW won't offer any special deals on the 550
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I think it came out to $1,163. QUOTE]
How many miles a year?
How many miles a year?
They have great deals on the 525 and 530 but nothing on the 550 and if they all get ordered, then BMW won't offer any special deals on the 550
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Sorry - 3 year lease, 12K per year.
They have great deals on the 525 and 530 but nothing on the 550 and if they all get ordered, then BMW won't offer any special deals on the 550
Now let's see, $1,163 a month for the lease payment, then add insurance, gas, license, and whatever. $1.50 to $2.00 a mile to drive for three years. That isn't a good driving car. It must be love. Less and less chance to drive that car in the manner that justifies the cost. Every once in a while what you have to give up for what you get just doesn't make the numbers work out.
The only good part, even at $1.50 a mile so $54,000.00 in three years, is the chance to flip the keys at BMWNA and say bye to the car and your $54,000.00. But you will have those driving memories.
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I have to admit, when I first saw the new "Banglized" Bimmers I was disturbed... The 7 is just not pretty, the 3 was weird - especially compared to the E46 which is just a simple, timeless beauty and then the new 5... Ew. That was then, this is now: I still think the 7 is a pig, but the E90 has sweetened on me and the 5 - yeah it's definitely growing on me. It really is true too - No car feels like a Bimmer. They have a feeling that no-one has replicated yet. Porsches do not count for comparison since they are not cars, they are icons. The interior of the new 5 seems of poor quality and a step backwards from the last gen, but without driving one it's impossible to pass judgement on a BMW.
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Originally Posted by rominl
feature wise, yes
performance, not even close. the 550 is way on top of the gs430 and m45
performance, not even close. the 550 is way on top of the gs430 and m45
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glad I read this thread, friday I thought my eyes where playing tricks on me, on my usual drive to work down the garden state parkway, I was following a 645i that was trailing another 5, the 645 got off to get gas and I realized the other 5 was a 550i, I just thought someone was rebadging
but it had a dealer plate on it and further ahead, 2-3 cars was an outstanding blue 5 series with a look I've never seen, it pulled onto the shoulder and as I passed I noticed the M5 on the back to only do a double take at the bangle front design to realized the V10 beast has made it to the local dealers ![Woohoo](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/woohoo.gif)
mind you I had a good day
a BMW question for you bimmer guys is the X series sedans, typically the 3 and 5 series a real AWD setup with a front drive shaft,
I'd also like to add I saw the new S-Class, in disquise
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mind you I had a good day
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I'd also like to add I saw the new S-Class, in disquise
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