Why I'm probably getting a G35...
#16
Originally Posted by kensteele
g35 sedan is absolutely boring.
#17
Originally Posted by 4DOORFUN
I have no problem with the G35 interior. Maybe my expectations just are not that high in terms of interior quality. I thought the leather felt great, real aluminum trim, and nice layout with good driver visability.
Yes, there are ton of G35's on the road. No doubt about it. I never for once second believed spending $30K or $40K on a car would make is rare and exclusive. There are also a ton of BMW 330i's, Audi A4's, and so on and so forth. If you really want to an exclusive car, then plan on spending a lot more than $40K. Lexus plans to sell 40,000 units of the new IS. Give it time, they will be everywhere.
Yes, there are ton of G35's on the road. No doubt about it. I never for once second believed spending $30K or $40K on a car would make is rare and exclusive. There are also a ton of BMW 330i's, Audi A4's, and so on and so forth. If you really want to an exclusive car, then plan on spending a lot more than $40K. Lexus plans to sell 40,000 units of the new IS. Give it time, they will be everywhere.
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i traded a g35 coupe for the is350. only thing i liked better on the g35c was the slightly better road feel and stiffer stock suspension. on the is350, it feels good enough and the suspension can always be upgraded. the interior quality is what really got me to go for lexus. as for the g35 sedan, it just doesn't have enough points in the exterior looks. but for the value, yes the g35 is a decent deal.. but that's if you don't care how it looks on the outside.
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There is no denying that cars like G35 and TL are great values: lots of performance, luxury and space for a price that is more palatable. If you find the quality of the interior acceptable, by all means get the G35. I parted with my G35C simply because of the lack of refinement in the interior (in my opinion), even it looked stunning from the outside and drove like a blast. I find the extra refinement and straight-line performance on the IS350 well worth the premium cost.
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I know about the new G35 coming out in 2007. I may wait and check it out, but it will sell for near MSRP and I’m not wild about buying cars in during their first production year.
Is anyone under whelmed with new IS 350? The IS 350 is in a brand new model year and it’s simply keeping up with the competition instead of beating the competition.
Look at the following comparisons:
280/298 hp vs. 306 (you won’t feel the difference)
260/270 tq. vs. 277 (you won’t feel the difference)
handling – slight edge to G35
build quality – slight edge to IS
size – slight edge to G35
manual tranny option– G35
warranty – tie
value – G35
The old, worn out G35 still competes with the new IS on many levels. What does that say about the new IS? Did Lexus underestimate the competition in this segment? I think so. The new IS 350 is a great car, but it’s overpriced for what you get. Lexus should not have raised the price so much from the previous IS. The majority of car buyers would rather have the BMW brand if they are willing to slap down $40K.
BTW – for $35K, the IS 250 is a serious rip off. People that purchase an IS 250 must really just want the Lexus brand. There are so many better cars for $35K.
Is anyone under whelmed with new IS 350? The IS 350 is in a brand new model year and it’s simply keeping up with the competition instead of beating the competition.
Look at the following comparisons:
280/298 hp vs. 306 (you won’t feel the difference)
260/270 tq. vs. 277 (you won’t feel the difference)
handling – slight edge to G35
build quality – slight edge to IS
size – slight edge to G35
manual tranny option– G35
warranty – tie
value – G35
The old, worn out G35 still competes with the new IS on many levels. What does that say about the new IS? Did Lexus underestimate the competition in this segment? I think so. The new IS 350 is a great car, but it’s overpriced for what you get. Lexus should not have raised the price so much from the previous IS. The majority of car buyers would rather have the BMW brand if they are willing to slap down $40K.
BTW – for $35K, the IS 250 is a serious rip off. People that purchase an IS 250 must really just want the Lexus brand. There are so many better cars for $35K.
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I have to say, the G35 is probably the best used car around. The features you get for <30k is a GREAT deal. However, I wouldn't buy one new.
280/298 hp vs. 306 (you won’t feel the difference)
260/270 tq. vs. 277 (you won’t feel the difference)
handling – slight edge to G35
build quality – slight edge to IS
size – slight edge to G35
manual tranny option– G35
warranty – tie
value – G35
The old, worn out G35 still competes with the new IS on many levels. What does that say about the new IS? Did Lexus underestimate the competition in this segment? I think so. The new IS 350 is a great car, but it’s overpriced for what you get. Lexus should not have raised the price so much from the previous IS. The majority of car buyers would rather have the BMW brand if they are willing to slap down $40K.
BTW – for $35K, the IS 250 is a serious rip off. People that purchase an IS 250 must really just want the Lexus brand. There are so many better cars for $35K.
No, Lexus didn't underestimate this segment. The IS250 competes more with the TSX, 325i, C240. It doesn't compete with the G35. The G35 competes with the 330i, TL, C320, IS350, and a few others. The G35 doesn't really stand toe to toe with Lexus on the IS, due to lack of engine variety. The G35 competes only with the IS350, otherwise it's not really a fair battle with a full litre of displacement and about 75 horsepower difference.
You're going to feel a MAJOR difference with that 16 horsepower (it's more than 16 i believe, since they measured the IS with the new HP standards, but i'm not sure about that) and that extra gear in the transmission (for auto). The result is a much faster 0-60 time, better fuel economy, and better overall acceleration performance.
Originally Posted by 4DOORFUN
280/298 hp vs. 306 (you won’t feel the difference)
260/270 tq. vs. 277 (you won’t feel the difference)
handling – slight edge to G35
build quality – slight edge to IS
size – slight edge to G35
manual tranny option– G35
warranty – tie
value – G35
The old, worn out G35 still competes with the new IS on many levels. What does that say about the new IS? Did Lexus underestimate the competition in this segment? I think so. The new IS 350 is a great car, but it’s overpriced for what you get. Lexus should not have raised the price so much from the previous IS. The majority of car buyers would rather have the BMW brand if they are willing to slap down $40K.
BTW – for $35K, the IS 250 is a serious rip off. People that purchase an IS 250 must really just want the Lexus brand. There are so many better cars for $35K.
You're going to feel a MAJOR difference with that 16 horsepower (it's more than 16 i believe, since they measured the IS with the new HP standards, but i'm not sure about that) and that extra gear in the transmission (for auto). The result is a much faster 0-60 time, better fuel economy, and better overall acceleration performance.
Last edited by TheRupp; 12-16-05 at 09:03 AM.
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nothing wrong getting G35.
is the new sedan G35 have the same tranny on the coupe?? i know the Z and G35 coupe has tranny problems so check that out first before you buy it. i have friends that sold their G35 coupe and friend with Z that they have tranny and tire wear problems.
just some heads up
is the new sedan G35 have the same tranny on the coupe?? i know the Z and G35 coupe has tranny problems so check that out first before you buy it. i have friends that sold their G35 coupe and friend with Z that they have tranny and tire wear problems.
just some heads up
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Originally Posted by 4DOORFUN
I know about the new G35 coming out in 2007. I may wait and check it out, but it will sell for near MSRP and I’m not wild about buying cars in during their first production year.
Is anyone under whelmed with new IS 350? The IS 350 is in a brand new model year and it’s simply keeping up with the competition instead of beating the competition.
Look at the following comparisons:
280/298 hp vs. 306 (you won’t feel the difference)
260/270 tq. vs. 277 (you won’t feel the difference)
handling – slight edge to G35
build quality – slight edge to IS
size – slight edge to G35
manual tranny option– G35
warranty – tie
value – G35
The old, worn out G35 still competes with the new IS on many levels. What does that say about the new IS? Did Lexus underestimate the competition in this segment? I think so. The new IS 350 is a great car, but it’s overpriced for what you get. Lexus should not have raised the price so much from the previous IS. The majority of car buyers would rather have the BMW brand if they are willing to slap down $40K.
BTW – for $35K, the IS 250 is a serious rip off. People that purchase an IS 250 must really just want the Lexus brand. There are so many better cars for $35K.
Is anyone under whelmed with new IS 350? The IS 350 is in a brand new model year and it’s simply keeping up with the competition instead of beating the competition.
Look at the following comparisons:
280/298 hp vs. 306 (you won’t feel the difference)
260/270 tq. vs. 277 (you won’t feel the difference)
handling – slight edge to G35
build quality – slight edge to IS
size – slight edge to G35
manual tranny option– G35
warranty – tie
value – G35
The old, worn out G35 still competes with the new IS on many levels. What does that say about the new IS? Did Lexus underestimate the competition in this segment? I think so. The new IS 350 is a great car, but it’s overpriced for what you get. Lexus should not have raised the price so much from the previous IS. The majority of car buyers would rather have the BMW brand if they are willing to slap down $40K.
BTW – for $35K, the IS 250 is a serious rip off. People that purchase an IS 250 must really just want the Lexus brand. There are so many better cars for $35K.
#26
Originally Posted by 4DOORFUN
I know about the new G35 coming out in 2007. I may wait and check it out, but it will sell for near MSRP and I’m not wild about buying cars in during their first production year.
Is anyone under whelmed with new IS 350? The IS 350 is in a brand new model year and it’s simply keeping up with the competition instead of beating the competition.
Look at the following comparisons:
280/298 hp vs. 306 (you won’t feel the difference)
260/270 tq. vs. 277 (you won’t feel the difference)
handling – slight edge to G35
build quality – slight edge to IS
size – slight edge to G35
manual tranny option– G35
warranty – tie
value – G35
The old, worn out G35 still competes with the new IS on many levels. What does that say about the new IS? Did Lexus underestimate the competition in this segment? I think so. The new IS 350 is a great car, but it’s overpriced for what you get. Lexus should not have raised the price so much from the previous IS. The majority of car buyers would rather have the BMW brand if they are willing to slap down $40K.
BTW – for $35K, the IS 250 is a serious rip off. People that purchase an IS 250 must really just want the Lexus brand. There are so many better cars for $35K.
Is anyone under whelmed with new IS 350? The IS 350 is in a brand new model year and it’s simply keeping up with the competition instead of beating the competition.
Look at the following comparisons:
280/298 hp vs. 306 (you won’t feel the difference)
260/270 tq. vs. 277 (you won’t feel the difference)
handling – slight edge to G35
build quality – slight edge to IS
size – slight edge to G35
manual tranny option– G35
warranty – tie
value – G35
The old, worn out G35 still competes with the new IS on many levels. What does that say about the new IS? Did Lexus underestimate the competition in this segment? I think so. The new IS 350 is a great car, but it’s overpriced for what you get. Lexus should not have raised the price so much from the previous IS. The majority of car buyers would rather have the BMW brand if they are willing to slap down $40K.
BTW – for $35K, the IS 250 is a serious rip off. People that purchase an IS 250 must really just want the Lexus brand. There are so many better cars for $35K.
#27
remember that infiniti still uses the ole sae hp rating standards which is giving them 298hp for the g35 manuals. if lexus were still marketing the is350 under old standards, it would really be 320hp then. hence the noticeable quicker performance that you have seen in some tests.
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I don't know if I'd ever buy an IS350 sedan, It's unlikely that I would trade my G35 coupe 6MT for an IS350 sedan, but I've driven the IS350, & it's noticeably faster than my manual G35c.
I haven't tried the VSC/TRAC disable, but it should make the IS350 more fun to drive on the track than the magazine/reviews suggested.
I haven't tried the VSC/TRAC disable, but it should make the IS350 more fun to drive on the track than the magazine/reviews suggested.
#29
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Originally Posted by Badman Forever
remember that infiniti still uses the ole sae hp rating standards which is giving them 298hp for the g35 manuals. if lexus were still marketing the is350 under old standards, it would really be 320hp then. hence the noticeable quicker performance that you have seen in some tests.
#30
Originally Posted by 4DOORFUN
The rev matching downshifts of the auto transmission were superb.