GFerg

Just a few that stand out.

Dodge Neon 62.2%
Chrysler Sebring 52.6%
Pontiac Grand Am 71.5%
Ford Taurus 76.0%
Pontiac Grand Prix 52.2%
Chevrolet Impala 62.1%
Ford Crown Victoria 79.6%
Pontiac Bonneville 55.1%
Toyota Camry 14.0%
Honda Accord 2.1%
Mazda 6 27.5%
Nissan Altima 12.2%
Nissan Maxima 18.7%
Chrysler 300 21.0%
Ford 500 10.4%
Chevrolet Malibu 47.9%

Infiniti G35 8.8%
Acura TL 1.5%
Lexus ES330 1.8%
BMW 325 2.4%
Volvo S60 23.2%
Cadillac CTS 7.5%
Lincoln Town Car 41.0%

Just about all Luxury cars had a great majority of fleet sales going to commercial and business use. Those of domestic makes were used for Rental and Government. Oh and surprisingly a bigger majority of G35 fleet sales went to Rental. Go figure.


A COMPLETE LIST CAN BE FOUND HERE
http://www.fleet-central.com/af/t_po...5/cars_web.pdf

jrock65

The Camry was 14%. Versus the Accord at 2.1%. So I guess the Accord was actually the best selling retail car?

Gojirra99

Total 2005 Camry sales = 431,703, minus 14% fleet ~ = 371,264 retail sales.

Total 2005 Accord sales = 369,293, minus 2.1 % fleet ~= 361,538 retail sales.

So I think the Camry is still ahead in retail sales.

jrock65

I see. Accord sales kinda crapped out a bit this year. Sonata seems to be hurting the Accord more than the Camry.

spwolf

a lot of last 2 month Sonata spike in sales came from fleet as well... Any stats on that magneto?

GFerg

EVERY single car sold in the USA is in the link above.


Hyundai Sonata 26.5%

spwolf

Ok, so Sonata had 26% fleet sales. Ans also, this is for mid year sales, from oct 2004 to march 2005.

Aditionally, keep in mind that not all fleet sales are the same. Some manufacturers give huge fleet rabates, some do not. For example, fleet rabate for Camry is $900, and is the biggest in Toyota cars (0 to prius although 2.x% were sold to fleets). Sonata fleet rabate is from $2,000 to $2,500. Maxima that sold a lot to fleets, got $1k rabate.

jrock65

The 26% figure for the Sonata is for the last few months of the last model year for the previous generation. They were probably selling to fleets at a higher rate to clear way for the all new model. In the first half of 2004, Sonata fleet sales were 15%.

We don't have any stats yet on the current generation. I doubt that fleet sales for the current model is 26%.

UDel

The Camry has another model to add to those numbers that the Accord does not have. I believe the Camry Solara "convertable" is also counted as Camry sales which the Accord does not have a convertable model to compete with so that might be what it putting total Camry sales over Accord sales even for retail purchase.

LexFather

Those American cars are basically made to be rentals and it just so happens people buy them at dealerships sometimes, is what that chart is saying.

And Nissan seems to not mind that path either, though not as bad. Leave it to the Frenchies

xioix

it doesn't really matter, as its camry model's vs accord model's

spwolf

actually, last two months in 2005, Sonata sales doubled, mostly from fleet sales to rentals...
Their fleet discount for NEW Sonata's was from $2,000 to $2,500...

jrock65

Where do you get the fleet info for the last two months?

flipside909

You'll be shocked how many new Sonatas are in Hertz and Enterprise's fleets here in CA. Even the other smaller rental agencies are carrying them heavily.

spwolf

there is nothing wrong with that BTW, as long as Hyundai is making money on them. It will lower the resale though Jrock, which is something to think about - you spend more on Toyota now, but you sell it easier and for more later on...