January 2006 Vehicles Sales Thread
02-01-06, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GS69
I for one am buying it when the new engine comes out {the more I look @ the new ES the less I like it - I think the L-Finesse look on all models is getting to be a bit much a la Acura's family resemblence}.
Speaking of which, I may just have to buy an RL - I feel bad for it after looking @ these numbers .... the wicked headlights are nice. But ummm ... poor thing.
Speaking of which, I may just have to buy an RL - I feel bad for it after looking @ these numbers .... the wicked headlights are nice. But ummm ... poor thing.
So the ES is doomed to people who think they saw the RL and copied, when the FACT is Lexus has been refining the design of the ES for 17 years now!
On the other hand, the RL has no succesful history, so they could make the 2nd gen look like anything, since the 1st gen was so bad.
Speaking of bad, I guess I look like a genius again
RL SALES 773 1,371 DOWN -43.6%
In one year! Sad
02-01-06, 04:47 PM
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NISSAN DIVISION SALES January 2006 January 2005 Monthly DSR %Change CYTD 2006 CYTD 2005 CYTD DSR %Change Nissan Divison Total 67,834 67,871 -0.1 67,834 67,871 -0.1 Sentra 9,807 8,177 19.9 9,807 8,177 19.9 Altima 16,758 17,095 -2.0 16,758 17,095 -2.0 Maxima 4,895 5,704 -14.2 4,895 5,704 -14.2 350Z 1,770 1,728 2.4 1,770 1,728 2.4 - Total Car 33,230 32,704 1.6 33,230 32,704 1.6 Frontier 5,546 5,899 -6.0 5,546 5,899 -6.0 Xterra 5,625 4,985 12.8 5,625 4,985 12.8 Pathfinder 6,079 6,359 -4.4 6,079 6,359 -4.4 Murano 6,988 5,436 28.6 6,988 5,436 28.6 Quest 1,724 2,502 -31.1 1,724 2,502 -31.1 Armada 2,702 3,427 -21.2 2,702 3,427 -21.2 Titan 5,940 6,559 -9.4 5,940 6,559 -9.4 -Total Truck 34,604 35,167 -1.6 34,604 35,167 -1.6 North American Produced 59,073 60,213 -1.9 59,073 60,213 -1.9 Car 31,460 30,976 1.6 31,460 30,976 1.6 Truck 27,613 29,237 -5.6 27,613 29,237 -5.6 Import 8,761 7,658 14.4 8,761 7,658 14.4 Car 1,770 1,728 2.4 1,770 1,728 2.4 Truck 6,991 5,930 17.9 6,991 5,930 17.9 INFINITI DIVISION SALES January 2006 January 2005 Monthly DSR %Change CYTD 2006 CYTD 2005 CYTD DSR %Change Infiniti Division Total 8,057 8,713 -7.5 8,057 8,713 -7.5 I35 0 411 -100.0 0 411 -100.0 G35 Sedan 2,425 3,212 24.5 2,425 3,212 -24.5 G35 Coupe 1,518 1,661 -8.6 1,518 1,661 -8.6 M45 1,892 90 2002.2 1,892 90 2002.2 Q45 48 108 -55.6 48 108 -55.6 QX56 905 1,263 -28.3 905 1,263 -28.3 FX 1,267 1,967 -35.6 1,267 1,967 -35.6 - Total Car 5,833 5,482 7.3 5,883 5,482 7.3 - Total Truck 2,174 3,231 -32.7 2,174 3,231 -32.7
02-01-06, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
Same here. For January, IS350 sales were 32% of total IS sales, that's really big! That's bigger than what Lexus predicted I believe. I think it has to do with the IS350 having such a great engine, and still being priced quite decently compared to the competition, especially the 330i.
I wonder if we'll see such great percentages when the GS gets the engine change. The GS460 is going to be extremely competitive.
I wonder if we'll see such great percentages when the GS gets the engine change. The GS460 is going to be extremely competitive.
02-01-06, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
This is the wrong way of thinking and I'll tell you why. The ES has ALWAYS had vertical slants and EVERY version has gotten a larger grill with more vertical slants. So since the ES keeps EVOLVING, over what, 17 years, it is not Lexus fault, the RL resembles what the ES could look like. THe same thing with the new Maxima and the GS, the GS was evolving and Nissan just made their version of what they think the GS would look like.
So the ES is doomed to people who think they saw the RL and copied, when the FACT is Lexus has been refining the design of the ES for 17 years now!
On the other hand, the RL has no succesful history, so they could make the 2nd gen look like anything, since the 1st gen was so bad.
Speaking of bad, I guess I look like a genius again
RL SALES 773 1,371 DOWN -43.6%
In one year! Sad
So the ES is doomed to people who think they saw the RL and copied, when the FACT is Lexus has been refining the design of the ES for 17 years now!
On the other hand, the RL has no succesful history, so they could make the 2nd gen look like anything, since the 1st gen was so bad.
Speaking of bad, I guess I look like a genius again
RL SALES 773 1,371 DOWN -43.6%
In one year! Sad
Back to the RL -- the Acura dealership I bought my TSX from called me last Nov & offered to buy the TSX back @ only $400 less than what I paid if I bought a 2005 RL @ invoice. I thought hard about this great deal but passed bc 1) they did not have the color I wanted, 2) the 17mpg was kinda low & 3) people are not buying the car for some reason ....
Maybe they will go even lower as 2006 rolls on...
02-01-06, 05:24 PM
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Porsche
Porsche Cars North America Reports January 2006 Sales
2006 Starts with Record Month due to Strong Sports Car Sales
ATLANTA, Feb. 1 -- Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (PCNA), importer and distributor of Porsche sports cars and Cayenne SUVs in the United States and Canada, today announced best-ever January sales in the United States. The company sold a total of 3,232 Porsches, an increase of 48 percent compared to January 2005.
This striking performance was carried mainly by the much-anticipated debut of the new Cayman S that resulted in total sales of the Boxster/Cayman series of 1,383 units and continued strong demand for the 911 range with 810 cars sold, 31 percent ahead of the same period last year. The Cayenne range held its own with a total of 1,028 units.
"We are thrilled with our customers' reception of the Cayman S," said Peter Schwarzenbauer, PCNA President and CEO. "With more than 1,000 cars sold in just over two weeks, our new mid-engine sports car exceeded both our and our dealers' expectations."
In addition, dealers sold 441 Porsche Approved Certified Pre-Owned vehicles, compared to 327 for the same period last year.
2006 Starts with Record Month due to Strong Sports Car Sales
ATLANTA, Feb. 1 -- Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (PCNA), importer and distributor of Porsche sports cars and Cayenne SUVs in the United States and Canada, today announced best-ever January sales in the United States. The company sold a total of 3,232 Porsches, an increase of 48 percent compared to January 2005.
This striking performance was carried mainly by the much-anticipated debut of the new Cayman S that resulted in total sales of the Boxster/Cayman series of 1,383 units and continued strong demand for the 911 range with 810 cars sold, 31 percent ahead of the same period last year. The Cayenne range held its own with a total of 1,028 units.
"We are thrilled with our customers' reception of the Cayman S," said Peter Schwarzenbauer, PCNA President and CEO. "With more than 1,000 cars sold in just over two weeks, our new mid-engine sports car exceeded both our and our dealers' expectations."
In addition, dealers sold 441 Porsche Approved Certified Pre-Owned vehicles, compared to 327 for the same period last year.
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Model Month to Date Year to Date
Current Year Prior Year Current Year Prior Year
Boxster 208 259 208 259
Boxster S 152 209 152 209
Cayman S 1023 0 1023 0
ALL BOXSTER/CAYMAN 1383 468 1383 468
911 Carrera 91 242 91 242
911 Carrera S 139 150 139 150
Carrera Cabriolet 107 0 107 0
Carrera S Cabriolet 162 0 162 0
Carrera 4 Coupe 46 0 46 0
Carrera 4S Coupe 87 0 87 0
Carrera 4 Cabriolet 37 0 37 0
Carrera 4S Cabriolet 139 0 139 0
All 911 Carrera models (996) 2 228 2 228
ALL 911 810 620 810 620
Cayenne 408 454 408 454
Cayenne S 469 448 469 448
Cayenne Turbo 99 169 99 169
Cayenne Turbo S 52 0 52 0
ALL CAYENNE 1028 1071 1028 1071
CARRERA GT 11 18 11 18
GRAND TOTALS 3232 2177 3232 2177
Certified Pre-Owned 441 327 441 327
02-01-06, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GS69
I did not mean that the ES looks like the RL -- I meant that the Lexus family looks a like to me. Keep in mind this is w/out me staring @ em too hard but the GS looks kinda like the ES & IS just like how the front of TSX looks like the front of the TL & the RL looks like an Accord. I understand how there could be some family resemblence but if @ a glance I cannot tell them apart (like the last Camry & ES) then it is too similar for my tastes.
Back to the RL -- the Acura dealership I bought my TSX from called me last Nov & offered to buy the TSX back @ only $400 less than what I paid if I bought a 2005 RL @ invoice. I thought hard about this great deal but passed bc 1) they did not have the color I wanted, 2) the 17mpg was kinda low & 3) people are not buying the car for some reason ....
Maybe they will go even lower as 2006 rolls on...
Back to the RL -- the Acura dealership I bought my TSX from called me last Nov & offered to buy the TSX back @ only $400 less than what I paid if I bought a 2005 RL @ invoice. I thought hard about this great deal but passed bc 1) they did not have the color I wanted, 2) the 17mpg was kinda low & 3) people are not buying the car for some reason ....
Maybe they will go even lower as 2006 rolls on...
02-01-06, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LexArazzo
"We are thrilled with our customers' reception of the Cayman S," said Peter Schwarzenbauer, PCNA President and CEO. "With more than 1,000 cars sold in just over two weeks, our new mid-engine sports car exceeded both our and our dealers' expectations."
02-01-06, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
With BMW, they realistically have only two models that sell well: the 5 Series and the 3 Series. Take them away, and sales drop drastically. Sure, Lexus has had the RX and ES as sales leaders, but things will be more balanced out now, with decent GS sales, and good IS sales coming along. The GS is losing it's competitive edge due to its engines, especially for its price, so the engine change will definitely improve things, as will the hybrid model. I checked the 5 Series sales breakdown, and there are a lot of 5 variations out there. If the GS had that many variations, I would not doubt it's sales would be awfully close to the 5. That's where the hybrid comes in 
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Also, GM apparently reported a 6% increase in sales. I am suspect of those numbers, and would be interested in seeing the fleet sales breakdown. GM's retail market share continues to slip, as evident by the enormous percentage of 2005 Q4 sales at GM which were fleet ... something over 30% of total Q4 sales went to fleet. I also read somewhere that total 2005 sales for GM consisted of about 25% fleet sales.
Toyota seems strong with the new Rav 4. It's close to the Escape's numbers, and the V6 wasn't even available in January. I'm also surprised by the Tundra and Tacoma sales; higher than I would expect. Sienna and Scion sales are also surprising.
Edit: Highlander sales appear to be pretty good as well. In you factor in the Highlander as an old aging model, due to be redesigned, and the new Rav 4, then sales haven't changed much, even keeping in mind the hybrid model addition. Looks like there isn't that much cross shopping going on between the Highlander and Rav 4, which was feared by some. This is a good thing, as more potential for sales.
.Also, GM apparently reported a 6% increase in sales. I am suspect of those numbers, and would be interested in seeing the fleet sales breakdown. GM's retail market share continues to slip, as evident by the enormous percentage of 2005 Q4 sales at GM which were fleet ... something over 30% of total Q4 sales went to fleet. I also read somewhere that total 2005 sales for GM consisted of about 25% fleet sales.
Toyota seems strong with the new Rav 4. It's close to the Escape's numbers, and the V6 wasn't even available in January. I'm also surprised by the Tundra and Tacoma sales; higher than I would expect. Sienna and Scion sales are also surprising.
Edit: Highlander sales appear to be pretty good as well. In you factor in the Highlander as an old aging model, due to be redesigned, and the new Rav 4, then sales haven't changed much, even keeping in mind the hybrid model addition. Looks like there isn't that much cross shopping going on between the Highlander and Rav 4, which was feared by some. This is a good thing, as more potential for sales.
02-02-06, 06:22 AM
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Thursday, February 02, 2006
Auto sales bounce back
Big Three gains buoyed by fleet sales in January
Christine Tierney and Bryce G. Hoffman / The Detroit News
Defying expectations, U.S. sales of cars and light trucks rose last month, snapping a four-month decline to achieve the highest January total in four years.
But the underlying trends showed that Detroit's automakers are still struggling to hold their ground with consumers. Most of the 7.6 percent rise in January sales reflected a surge in deliveries to car rental companies and other fleet buyers, compared with year-earlier levels.
And although General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group all reported higher sales, their combined share of the U.S. market fell by more than a percentage point to 55.7 percent as leading Asian automakers recorded bigger gains.
Looking at the U.S. automakers, "when we take out the impact of fleet sales, their retail performance -- which I think is a better barometer -- was actually down," said Jesse Toprak, market analyst at auto research site Edmunds.com.
Most analysts predicted flat or lower monthly sales, compared with the previous January's 16.3 million units on an annual basis. But the selling rate increased in January to 17.6 million units, according to Autodata Corp.
"All in all, I would describe the month as pretty solid," said Paul Ballew, GM's executive director of industry analysis.
GM reported a 5.8 percent sales rise after cutting prices -- and reducing incentives -- as part of a strategy to bring sticker prices closer to actual transaction prices.
GM's car sales rose 15 percent, benefiting from rising demand for smaller, fuel-efficient vehicles ever since last year's increase in gasoline prices.
But Ballew said the initial response for big new models, such as the redesigned Chevrolet Tahoe sport utility vehicle launched last month, was promising. Tahoe sales were up 53 percent and GM is now shipping GMC Yukons and Cadillac Escalade SUVs to dealers.
"It's very early days, but I'd say so far, so good," said GM CEO Rick Wagoner during a tour of the Allison plant in Baltimore that will make transmissions for hybrid vehicles. "I would say that sales are well within expectations."
After losing $8.6 billion in 2005, GM is counting on its new large pickups and SUVs to preserve its U.S. market share, which now stands at 25.4 percent.
Ford sales rose 2.6 percent, helped by a 23 percent surge in sales of cars, such as the new Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan.
"Dealer stocks are well below where we want them to be," said Ford market analyst George Pipas.
The Chrysler Group benefited from a 19 percent increase in car sales that underpinned its overall 5 percent gain.
But the strong car sales further reflected a surge in sales to rental car companies, which typically replenish fleets in January and July.
Reconstruction work in parts of the country devastated last year by Hurricane Katrina bolstered demand for vehicles from contractors and other fleet buyers.
Analysts were concerned about the surge in fleet sales, which they consider less profitable than the retail business, or sales to dealers.
"The Big Three's strong sales may have been sweet this month," said Merrill Lynch analyst John Murphy, "but margins will likely suffer later."
While sales to rental car companies generate less profit than retail sales, the commercial fleet business is lucrative, said Brian McVeigh, general manager of GM's fleet and commercial operations.
About half of GM's fleet business is with rental car firms and the rest is with commercial fleets.
"This is a big fleet month, and that lifted us," said Gary Dilts, senior vice president for sales at the Chrysler Group. He said Chrysler pursued fleet business in January in part to keep up output levels.
Detroit's automakers are trying to sustain demand while scaling back on incentives that have undermined the resale values of their vehicles and eroded their brands.
"I've talked to a lot of dealers, and I think they like the pricing strategy," Wagoner said.
"But we're going to have to stick with it. It's a big change, and I'd say so far, so good, but way too early to declare victory."
Among the leading Asian brands, Toyota Motor Corp. sales rose 14 percent last month and Honda Motor Co. reported a 20.7 percent jump in sales.
Hyundai Motor Co. sales increased 16.1 percent while Nissan Motor Co. sales dipped almost 1 percent. It is bringing out new cars, such as the Sentra sedan and Versa subcompact, but has been hampered by slow demand for some of its larger vehicles, such as the Nissan Armada SUV and Quest minivan.
With competition looking ferocious in the retail market, Chrysler announced a fresh raft of incentives Wednesday. It is offering no-interest, 60-month financing on several models in a "0% is back" promotion that covers minivans, the Chrysler Pacifica, Dodge Ram light and heavy duty pickups, Dodge Durango, Dodge Dakota and some Jeep vehicles.
Ford and Chrysler executives said they agreed with GM's strategy to lower sticker prices and reduce bargaining to shift customers' focus on the attributes of the vehicles.
"Value pricing is not new to us," Chrysler Group's Dilts said.
"As we've brought new entries, we have priced them aggressively. We've been doing this, one product at a time, for almost three years."
Auto sales bounce back
Big Three gains buoyed by fleet sales in January
Christine Tierney and Bryce G. Hoffman / The Detroit News
Defying expectations, U.S. sales of cars and light trucks rose last month, snapping a four-month decline to achieve the highest January total in four years.
But the underlying trends showed that Detroit's automakers are still struggling to hold their ground with consumers. Most of the 7.6 percent rise in January sales reflected a surge in deliveries to car rental companies and other fleet buyers, compared with year-earlier levels.
And although General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group all reported higher sales, their combined share of the U.S. market fell by more than a percentage point to 55.7 percent as leading Asian automakers recorded bigger gains.
Looking at the U.S. automakers, "when we take out the impact of fleet sales, their retail performance -- which I think is a better barometer -- was actually down," said Jesse Toprak, market analyst at auto research site Edmunds.com.
Most analysts predicted flat or lower monthly sales, compared with the previous January's 16.3 million units on an annual basis. But the selling rate increased in January to 17.6 million units, according to Autodata Corp.
"All in all, I would describe the month as pretty solid," said Paul Ballew, GM's executive director of industry analysis.
GM reported a 5.8 percent sales rise after cutting prices -- and reducing incentives -- as part of a strategy to bring sticker prices closer to actual transaction prices.
GM's car sales rose 15 percent, benefiting from rising demand for smaller, fuel-efficient vehicles ever since last year's increase in gasoline prices.
But Ballew said the initial response for big new models, such as the redesigned Chevrolet Tahoe sport utility vehicle launched last month, was promising. Tahoe sales were up 53 percent and GM is now shipping GMC Yukons and Cadillac Escalade SUVs to dealers.
"It's very early days, but I'd say so far, so good," said GM CEO Rick Wagoner during a tour of the Allison plant in Baltimore that will make transmissions for hybrid vehicles. "I would say that sales are well within expectations."
After losing $8.6 billion in 2005, GM is counting on its new large pickups and SUVs to preserve its U.S. market share, which now stands at 25.4 percent.
Ford sales rose 2.6 percent, helped by a 23 percent surge in sales of cars, such as the new Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan.
"Dealer stocks are well below where we want them to be," said Ford market analyst George Pipas.
The Chrysler Group benefited from a 19 percent increase in car sales that underpinned its overall 5 percent gain.
But the strong car sales further reflected a surge in sales to rental car companies, which typically replenish fleets in January and July.
Reconstruction work in parts of the country devastated last year by Hurricane Katrina bolstered demand for vehicles from contractors and other fleet buyers.
Analysts were concerned about the surge in fleet sales, which they consider less profitable than the retail business, or sales to dealers.
"The Big Three's strong sales may have been sweet this month," said Merrill Lynch analyst John Murphy, "but margins will likely suffer later."
While sales to rental car companies generate less profit than retail sales, the commercial fleet business is lucrative, said Brian McVeigh, general manager of GM's fleet and commercial operations.
About half of GM's fleet business is with rental car firms and the rest is with commercial fleets.
"This is a big fleet month, and that lifted us," said Gary Dilts, senior vice president for sales at the Chrysler Group. He said Chrysler pursued fleet business in January in part to keep up output levels.
Detroit's automakers are trying to sustain demand while scaling back on incentives that have undermined the resale values of their vehicles and eroded their brands.
"I've talked to a lot of dealers, and I think they like the pricing strategy," Wagoner said.
"But we're going to have to stick with it. It's a big change, and I'd say so far, so good, but way too early to declare victory."
Among the leading Asian brands, Toyota Motor Corp. sales rose 14 percent last month and Honda Motor Co. reported a 20.7 percent jump in sales.
Hyundai Motor Co. sales increased 16.1 percent while Nissan Motor Co. sales dipped almost 1 percent. It is bringing out new cars, such as the Sentra sedan and Versa subcompact, but has been hampered by slow demand for some of its larger vehicles, such as the Nissan Armada SUV and Quest minivan.
With competition looking ferocious in the retail market, Chrysler announced a fresh raft of incentives Wednesday. It is offering no-interest, 60-month financing on several models in a "0% is back" promotion that covers minivans, the Chrysler Pacifica, Dodge Ram light and heavy duty pickups, Dodge Durango, Dodge Dakota and some Jeep vehicles.
Ford and Chrysler executives said they agreed with GM's strategy to lower sticker prices and reduce bargaining to shift customers' focus on the attributes of the vehicles.
"Value pricing is not new to us," Chrysler Group's Dilts said.
"As we've brought new entries, we have priced them aggressively. We've been doing this, one product at a time, for almost three years."
02-02-06, 08:30 AM
#42
Thanks 4 all the Info!
Quick Question: In the US, Honda sells a lot more than Nissan but in Japan, Honda is ranked 3rd behind Toyota & Nissan. Anyone have insight as to why? Just curious as to what, if any, the differences are in the 2 markets.
Thanks!
Thanks!
02-06-06, 11:33 PM
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I'm kinda curious at to how well the IS 220d is selling in Europe? Since diesel is very popular there and the IS is targeted at BMW is the IS making any headway there?
02-23-06, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GS69
Quick Question: In the US, Honda sells a lot more than Nissan but in Japan, Honda is ranked 3rd behind Toyota & Nissan. Anyone have insight as to why?
Seriously, I don't have the entire answer but my best guess is that Nissan, in Japan, sells a line of very small and micro-utilty vehicles like the Cube that to date is not available in the U.S. These micro-panel trucks are very popular as handyman's vehicles and for people who need small outside dimensions and the ability to carry things. Toyota sells the Scion xB, of course, that with its seats folded, has much the same utility....but it is designed more for people than cargo.
Honda, on the other hand, though it has the larger Element, does not, to my knowledge, have anything smaller than that to compete with Nissan's Cube....or anything else in either the American or Japanese market to appeal to those Japanese handymen. Nissan has been mum, despite speculation, on any official plans to bring the Cube stateside.
02-23-06, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Honda, on the other hand, though it has the larger Element, does not, to my knowledge, have anything smaller than that to compete with Nissan's Cube.....