Acura dealers expect cheaper RL as it is not living up to expectations
02-22-06, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
I have to agree. And the rims look like they belong on a Kia, not a $50K car. Heck a Ford Fusion has better rims.
The 'packaging'/space-efficiency of the car is nice but luxury cars aren't purely about 'functionality' there must be more emotion. That has been Lexus' problem as well to some extent (boring designs) and they seem to be addressing that some - the new LS for example is a more exciting design than any previous model.
Acura has a small number of products and tries to do a lot with each but has limited option configurations and luxury buyers like variation and customization. Lexus has a MUCH bigger product line and more option variation within each. This gives the dealers a better chance to 'catch' a customer with the right configuration / price.
And then there's the dealerships themselves. An Acura dealership looks like a 'slightly' upscale Honda dealership. Lexus dealerships now have these HUGE high showroom buildings which are impressive and make people special when they visit.
The RL is a very nice, technologically advanced and innovative vehicle. But it's trying to do too much with a weak brand infrastructure behind it.
Bottom line: ALL HAIL 1SICKLEX.
The 'packaging'/space-efficiency of the car is nice but luxury cars aren't purely about 'functionality' there must be more emotion. That has been Lexus' problem as well to some extent (boring designs) and they seem to be addressing that some - the new LS for example is a more exciting design than any previous model.
Acura has a small number of products and tries to do a lot with each but has limited option configurations and luxury buyers like variation and customization. Lexus has a MUCH bigger product line and more option variation within each. This gives the dealers a better chance to 'catch' a customer with the right configuration / price.
And then there's the dealerships themselves. An Acura dealership looks like a 'slightly' upscale Honda dealership. Lexus dealerships now have these HUGE high showroom buildings which are impressive and make people special when they visit.
The RL is a very nice, technologically advanced and innovative vehicle. But it's trying to do too much with a weak brand infrastructure behind it.
Bottom line: ALL HAIL 1SICKLEX.
YES YES YES!!!!!
02-22-06, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by magneto112
Acura dealers expect cheaper RL
Kathy Jackson
Automotive News / February 20, 2006 - 6:00 am
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...t=newsletter02
Kathy Jackson
Automotive News / February 20, 2006 - 6:00 am
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...t=newsletter02
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...fsect=2006NADA
It's interesting to note he owns 2 successful Lexus Elite dealerships here in Chicago (bought my '96 SC from them)
My $.02... Acura needs to quit farting around, bring out the new NSX, then follow up with an '08 Acura Legend w/ 450hp V8 rear and/or AWD for $65K then they'll be back in the game...if the game they want is Lexus/BMW/Benz. But if the game they want is Hunda 'plus' then stay with what they have now..
02-22-06, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cip
Yeah, Acura should listen to their chairman of the dealer council (Mike McGrath).
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...fsect=2006NADA
It's interesting to note he owns 2 successful Lexus Elite dealerships here in Chicago (bought my '96 SC from them)
My $.02... Acura needs to quit farting around, bring out the new NSX, then follow up with an '08 Acura Legend w/ 450hp V8 rear and/or AWD for $65K then they'll be back in the game...if the game they want is Lexus/BMW/Benz. But if the game they want is Hunda 'plus' then stay with what they have now..
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...fsect=2006NADA
It's interesting to note he owns 2 successful Lexus Elite dealerships here in Chicago (bought my '96 SC from them)
My $.02... Acura needs to quit farting around, bring out the new NSX, then follow up with an '08 Acura Legend w/ 450hp V8 rear and/or AWD for $65K then they'll be back in the game...if the game they want is Lexus/BMW/Benz. But if the game they want is Hunda 'plus' then stay with what they have now..
02-22-06, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
hhahaa dont' say that bit. personally it's not until 06 that i think the wheels on lexus are improving 
acura definitely needs time. although they started out about the same time, but acura has definitely been way too slow on growing and took couple of very wrong directions. that's why the gap between it and lexus. same to dealership, if they can't have the kind of profit, it's hard for them to have the kind of lexus dealership experience.
that's why i don't hink reducing the price is a good move for them
that's why i don't hink reducing the price is a good move for them
02-22-06, 04:06 PM
#35
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Huh? I don't think Lexus has ANY decent rims.
I'm starting to like those on the GS450h too . . .
02-22-06, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LexArazzo
I think those 18 " split spokes on the IS350 look pretty decent for stock wheels. I'm starting to like those on the GS450h too . . .
I'm starting to like those on the GS450h too . . .
Wait, I think Henry is one of those guys too
#$((* HRE snobs
Me=stock Lexus rim snob.
I really like the 5 spokes on the 3GS 430
02-22-06, 05:05 PM
#37
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Well Bit did have HREs so all rims are crap to those HRE uppity snobs.
Wait, I think Henry is one of those guys too
#$((* HRE snobs
Me=stock Lexus rim snob.
I really like the 5 spokes on the 3GS 430
Wait, I think Henry is one of those guys too
#$((* HRE snobs
Me=stock Lexus rim snob.
I really like the 5 spokes on the 3GS 430
i do like the spider wheels on the gs430. don't really like the 5 spoke though, very funny looking imho.
anyway, good point on axing a lot of the lineup in acura. the rsx and the tsx.... their presence in the acura lineup won't really bring them too far at all
02-22-06, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Och
Am I the only one who hates aftermarket rims?
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02-22-06, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LexArazzo
I think those 18 " split spokes on the IS350 look pretty decent for stock wheels. I'm starting to like those on the GS450h too . . .
I'm starting to like those on the GS450h too . . .
02-22-06, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LexArazzo
If I'm not mistaken, I think neither Bit nor Henry have the HRE's anymore.
I still do
I still do
Actually, I've also warmed up to the L-Tuned 18's I have on my car now.
02-22-06, 07:12 PM
#45
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Wait, so LexArrazo has HRE? I though BBS?
BBS on my SC430. I'll have to switch to some 20" with fat lips before I even dare pose pics of the car in the SC430 forum again