LexFather

If u ever think of selling the BBS, give me a holla first

bitkahuna

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Thanks man, ready to buy it?

Sorry, WAY OT.

rominl

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in general, for oem wheels, i think mb have some great designs. i think a lot of companies should learn from them

GSteg

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Acura needs to get rid of the RSX. A luxury brand shouldn't have a car that cost around $20k, and have nothing to show for it. The RSX is basically a normal car, yet because you can get it with leather seats, it all of the sudden appears to be a near luxury car. Same with the TSX. Lexus' low-end priced cars (ES/IS) are priced around $30k. Same goes with BMW and Mercedes.

Acura needs at least a car that has rwd, specifically the TL if it wants to compete with the 3-series and IS-series.

rominl

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pretty much in line with what most of us think here. now if they do listen

Gojirra99

Yes, the AMG/AMG package models(where extra $ is tagged on the kit & the wheels) have some good rims, but have you seen those standard on the S class 4matics( & previously all standard S class) ? I won't put those on a civic LOL

LexusChris

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The RL to in my opinion is a good value compared to some competition however many do not seem to have love for a Japanese vehicle that's priced near $50,000 unless it's a Lexus. The TSX should be made RWD and made more powerful to compare with the likes of the IS and 3-Series. I have a feeling if the Acura CL was RWD it would have been more successful.

marshmallo

I don't think anyone is disputing that the RL is a fine car and a good value, but
the fit and finish of a GS wins hands down. The styling of the GS may be
controversial or bland, but it is a superbly build automobile. Part of the problem
is perception, but part of it is reality as well.

Acura (to their credit) is a very practical company, but with the RL this is limiting
since luxury is about excess not pragmatism. You really need that V8? Not really,
but that doesn't mean we don't want one

rominl

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yeah i agree it's not coz' "It's an acura and it's bad" or "it's a lexus so it's good". when acura has their flagship rl and it can only go against say the gs, that's a problem right there. that only means they are missing something else on top of the rl to say the least (and i will leave out all the built quality, etc...)

not too long ago acura talked about raising the image of their brand name, we will see. i think they need more than just the image

LexFather

If its hanging around in a couple of....


whoa, WAAAAY OT

bitkahuna

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Not sure how you can say this. mmarshall's review praised the fit and finish and solid feel of the RL, and in the 3GS forum on here there's quite a lot of talks about squeaks, creaks, and a few other issues. Not saying either vehicle is bad at all but I don't believe for a second that the 3GS wins 'hands down' in fit and finish over the RL.

I think the exact same things can be said about the RL.

True! I think if Acura brought out a V8 RL it would increase sales of the *V6* version too. Maybe call the V8 one the RL-S.

marshmallo

I had a rattle problem on my GS as well, but I was evaluating the gaps, the contours
and the quality of the paint job. Maybe I am wearing Lexus colored glasses, but to
me the GS is quite a bit better in this respect. The interior is also subjective, but the
metal radio in the middle of the RL is a complete buzzkill for me...

I think it's time they do it if they want to be a luxury brand. This does not guarantee success,
as Infiniti knows from its Q45 sales figures.

rdollie

Actually Volvo made it official earlier this month. The new S80 comes with either the new I6 motor or the V8 with AWD and some other goodies. You can find details here (the second set of pictures further down the page are better):

New Volvo S80

4TehNguyen

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Realtime Racings TSX beats 3 series all the time, just because its FWD doesnt mean its automatically junk. TSX is probably the best handling chassis in its class. It wins C&D 10best for the sports sedan slot for the past 2 years despite going against cars that outpower it and are RWD/AWD. I suggest you test drive one first

jhr3uva90

Personally, I think the Acura dealerships are a MAJOR part of the problem. They are just inconsistent in their quality. RL sales are not universally bad, just regionally bad. A some of it has to do with geography: customers in areas that are flat or have mild weather don't see the need for an AWD car. But a lot of it has to do with the fact that Acura dealerships in some parts of the U.S. are NOT true luxury dealers. When Toyota established Lexus, they set strict rules for the dealerships to follow; Honda was not so strict when establishing Acura. Unfortunately, Acura has been suffering the consequences ever since, and Acura will never be able to sell a vehicle for a base price of over $40K if that situation is not resolved. In other words, Acura dealerships need to become more like Lexus dealerships if they want to try to sell Lexus-like cars.