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03-03-06, 03:41 PM
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So the Forbes thread mentioned reliability limits, saying that we may have reached a plateau in improving initial quality reliability.
On the same theme, what kind of limit do you think we'll reach with both hp and 0-60 speeds in consumer luxury cars? 10 years ago, it seemed 150 hp was pretty good and 0-60 in 8 or 9 seconds was normal. Now we have well over 200-300 as average for V6 and V8 engines and 0-60 in 5-6 seconds.
With NA 6 and 8 cylinder engines, DI, and VVT, I'm thinking we'll top out around 350 hp for V6 and 450 hp for V8 engines and 0-60 times of about 5 seconds for regular consumer luxury cars (i.e., not SLR, M5 sorts of cars, but regular IS350/LS460/S550/530i type cars).
On the same theme, what kind of limit do you think we'll reach with both hp and 0-60 speeds in consumer luxury cars? 10 years ago, it seemed 150 hp was pretty good and 0-60 in 8 or 9 seconds was normal. Now we have well over 200-300 as average for V6 and V8 engines and 0-60 in 5-6 seconds.
With NA 6 and 8 cylinder engines, DI, and VVT, I'm thinking we'll top out around 350 hp for V6 and 450 hp for V8 engines and 0-60 times of about 5 seconds for regular consumer luxury cars (i.e., not SLR, M5 sorts of cars, but regular IS350/LS460/S550/530i type cars).
03-03-06, 05:07 PM
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there are no limits to anything. They are still huge inroads to be made with regards to quality and reliability as well. And if IS350 with 306hp does 0-60 in 5.1, with 50 hp it would do well below that...
03-03-06, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Incendiary
So the Forbes thread mentioned reliability limits, saying that we may have reached a plateau in improving initial quality reliability.
On the same theme, what kind of limit do you think we'll reach with both hp and 0-60 speeds in consumer luxury cars? 10 years ago, it seemed 150 hp was pretty good and 0-60 in 8 or 9 seconds was normal. Now we have well over 200-300 as average for V6 and V8 engines and 0-60 in 5-6 seconds.
With NA 6 and 8 cylinder engines, DI, and VVT, I'm thinking we'll top out around 350 hp for V6 and 450 hp for V8 engines and 0-60 times of about 5 seconds for regular consumer luxury cars (i.e., not SLR, M5 sorts of cars, but regular IS350/LS460/S550/530i type cars).
On the same theme, what kind of limit do you think we'll reach with both hp and 0-60 speeds in consumer luxury cars? 10 years ago, it seemed 150 hp was pretty good and 0-60 in 8 or 9 seconds was normal. Now we have well over 200-300 as average for V6 and V8 engines and 0-60 in 5-6 seconds.
With NA 6 and 8 cylinder engines, DI, and VVT, I'm thinking we'll top out around 350 hp for V6 and 450 hp for V8 engines and 0-60 times of about 5 seconds for regular consumer luxury cars (i.e., not SLR, M5 sorts of cars, but regular IS350/LS460/S550/530i type cars).
On this pace, if gas stays flat in price here, I think your assumptions are about correct. 300hp will be nothing special anymore, 250hp is now common. Will 400hp be common??
Also, with the increase in gears, surely a 10 speed will come since Lexus has 8 and I know the GErmans won't take that. Or more CVT.
Though since we are talking luxury cars, I guess gas prices mean less. So I think your assumptions are on mark.
Also, car luxury makers are dropping I-4s in America. Now Benz doesn't offer them, BMW dropped their I-4s with the E36-E46 conversion. So now the entry level car has a V-6 with more power.
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