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Old 03-26-06, 06:33 PM
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Default Full Test: Audi Q7 ( Plus 580hp Nothelle Q7 Bi-Turbo )

Audi builds a heavyweight contender
By Kelly Toepke Email
Date posted: 03-23-2006


Vehicle Tested:
2007 Audi Q7 4.2 quattro 4dr SUV AWD (4.2L 8cyl 6A)
MSRP of Test Vehicle: $60,570


What Works:
Luxurious leather-trimmed cabin, Audi's intuitive Multi Media Interface (MMI) system, plenty of high-tech features.

What Needs Work:
Heavy curb weight hampers rapid acceleration.

Bottom Line:
Audi proves that if you're going to be late to the game, you'd better come to win.






Until now Audi has been content to watch from the sidelines as its competition created truck after truck after truck. The German automaker is one of the last manufacturers in the world without a sport-ute in its lineup, and its accountants and stockholders are sick of it.

And so in the interest of continued profitability, the company that made all-wheel drive mainstream has gone SUV. But unlike Mercedes-Benz, which offers a variety of V8-powered luxury SUVs — the ML500, R500 and the new full-size GL450 — Audi has decided to straddle the entire luxury SUV segment with one vehicle, the V8-powered seven-seat 2007 Audi Q7. At a base price of $49,900, Audi has even priced the Q7 right between the Benzes.

But can one Audi take on three Benzes? After 10 days in the driver seat of the buck-toothed Q7, we're convinced it's up to the task.

Drives big and heavy
With a 118.2-inch wheelbase, the Q7 may not be the largest SUV on the road, but it is among the heaviest. Weighing nearly 5,300 pounds, the Q7 carries over 300 pounds more than the R500, yet feels downright ironclad by comparison.

The second you enter the driver seat, there's an unmistakable heft about the Q7. The doors are heavy, the seat is firm and the controls require a heavy hand. Despite its tight turning circle, the Q7 feels a bit cumbersome around town. City drivers can feel like they're piloting a small ship to the grocery store.

Audi did this on purpose. The company's cars have always had a smaller-than-they-are kind of feel, even the not-so-lithe A8 L feels light on its feet and athletic. But this time Audi has decided to increase the Q7's feeling of size from behind the wheel. Although its controls have the precision you expect in an Audi, and the Q7 changes direction as well as any SUV we've ever tested, the Q7 feels like it would rather be driven through the impending obstacle than around it.

Not exactly a sprinter
A 4.2-liter V8 engine similar to the one that powers the 414-horsepower Audi RS 4 sport sedan is standard. Both use FSI direct gasoline injection technology that allows fuel to be injected directly into the combustion chamber for greater power without sacrificing fuel economy. Audi V8s have always been a little light on bottom-end torque, but come on strong as the tach needle climbs, and the double-overhead-cam 4.2 is no exception. In the Q7, the engine is rated at 325 pound-feet of torque at 3,500 rpm and 350 hp at its 6,800-rpm redline.

Even with FSI technology and a well-timed six-speed Tiptronic transmission, the Q7's fuel mileage isn't going to win any awards. During our 10-day test we found ourselves making regular small talk with Frank, our local gas station attendant. Our final average was a dismal 11.2 mpg over a few hundred miles, while a past test of the R500 recorded 15.6 mpg.

If you don't want to discuss Frank's great-aunt Fanny's hip replacement, a smaller, more fuel-efficient 280-hp, 3.6-liter V6 will be introduced in the Q7 later this fall. But a V6 Q7 may qualify for California's new Slowpoke Tax. The Q7's weight already puts a stress on the V8. With a 0-60-mph time of 8.3 seconds and a 16.1-second quarter-mile, the Q7 isn't exactly a sprinter. Both times are a full second behind the larger, but lighter R500.

Our truck's $2,600 optional adaptive air suspension has a speed-sensitive ride height adjustment which lowers the vehicle at higher speeds for maximum stability. It works. Out on the open highway, the Q7 takes a set above 80 mph like a well-pedigreed performance sedan, although overtaking cars camped out in the fast lane does require full throttle and the six-speed's willingness to downshift.

High-tech comfort
Aglow in red illumination, the Q7's state-of-the-art interior mimics the wonderful interior in the A6 sedan. Audi has managed a high-tech presentation without a sacrifice in comfort or warmth. Our test car had the optional premium Cricket leather seating, and natural walnut, leather and aluminum trim surrounding the cockpit-style control panel. Fit and finish, along with the quality of the materials, remains industry leading.

Audi's standard Multi Media Interface (MMI) must be dealt with to access the car's navigation system, climate controls and specially designed 14-speaker Bose audio system. BMW could take a lesson from this intuitive MMI system. It isn't exactly simple, but it can be figured out without a week spent studying the manual.

Additional feature highlights include an optional rear park-assist camera, optional adaptive cruise control and an optional lane-changing side assist unit, which spiked our test car's sticker price to over $60,000. The latter is a radar-based warning system that alerts drivers when cars are hiding in their blind spot with flashing signals in the sideview mirrors. It takes a few miles to get used to, since the lights first resemble a flash of sunlight, but once you become accustomed to the feature, it's handy to have onboard.

Rear passengers also have ample gadgetry at their fingertips. Rear climate controls are standard, and our truck's optional second-row captain's chairs were heated. Although the second-row buckets limit seating to six, seat comfort is higher than the standard bench.

Large cargo hold
Folding third-row seats offer limited legroom no matter the configuration, and, as is the case with most third-row seats in sub-Suburban-sized SUVs, they're best left to children.

When the backseats are not in use, they can be folded flat to accommodate 27.4 cubic feet of cargo, which expands to generous 144.1 cubes when the second row is also collapsed. A Q7 full of passengers can handle just a few kids' worth of sporting equipment in its 10.9 cubic feet.

A power liftgate is standard, but there's no control on the key fob, which can be a problem for drivers under 5.5 feet tall. They'll find it a stretch to reach the door-mounted button when the liftgate is open.

Technology meets road
Audi applies its quattro all-wheel-drive system across its model line, and the Q7 is no exception. All Q7s get standard quattro with 42/58 front/rear torque split for optimum traction in the rough or wet.

Just cruising the freeway, the adjustable suspension made a big difference in the Q7's ride quality, soaking up the bumps before they reached our backsides. The ride is firm, but there's no impact harshness despite our truck's optional 20-inch wheels and tires. Eighteens are standard.

Included with the air suspension is a roll-stabilization program to keep the Q7 level in the corners and an off-road lift setting that increases the SUV's ground clearance to nearly 10 inches when needed. Its lack of body roll, big tires and precise speed-dependent steering helped the heavy Q7 weave through the slalom at 61.6 mph. The R500 could only run the course of cones at 57.4 mph.

With its large, ventilated disc brakes with ABS and Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD), brake tests were even more impressive. The Q7 closed the 60-0-mph gap in just 117.9 feet, a whole car length shorter than the R500's 125.8-foot stopping distance and a remarkable feat considering the Q7's mass. Even more impressive was Q7's lack of brake fade. There was none, zero, zilch, nada after five 60-mph panic stops.

Does it bridge the gap?
Although Audi took its time joining the race, it's backing a viable contender, which should make Mercedes take note and Jaguar nervous. You see, the new 2007 Audi Q7 officially leaves Jaguar as the only luxury nameplate without a truck.

And how long will that last? Right now there's a pack of Jaguar executives in some oak-paneled boardroom fervently ringing William Clay Ford, Jr. across the pond.

"Bill, old boy, isn't it high time we put a Leaper on the Explorer?"





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I really like this Audi SUV.
The exterior looks great, but it may take a while for me to get use to the back end.
I love the interior.

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Hm, 60k loaded and pretty slow. Great looking car but 0-60 in 8.3 secs for 60k is simply not good enough.
I suspect that only 325lbs of tq on very heavy SUV has a lot to do with that...
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not only is the exterior ugly the interior is too busy as well
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First Drive: 2007 Audi Q7

A new luxury SUV contender

By Brent Romans
Date posted: 02-15-2006

For the lazy automotive writer, it would be tempting to label the 2007 Audi Q7 as another "me, too!" luxury SUV, plug in a clichéd "Q Ship" headline and retire to the local bar for 5 o'clock happy-hour wings.

After all, Audi is pretty much the last luxury automaker to offer an SUV (Jaguar is now the lone holdout), and the Q7 is built at the same facility that produces the Porsche Cayenne and Volkswagen Touareg. But Audi officials are quick to point out that the Q7 shares only a small percentage of its parts with its relatives.

Audi's engineers and designers also strived to make the Q7 distinct and provide it with some truly innovative features. In regards to nomenclature, "Q" has been designated for all future Audi SUV-related products and "7" refers to the SUV's approximate positioning between the A6 and A8 sedans.

Another crossover
The Q7 is what we would describe as a crossover SUV, with a unibody structure for stiffness and crashworthiness. Compared to the Touareg, the Q7 is about the same width but rides on an extended wheelbase and is 13 inches longer. And as is typically the case with SUVs, the growth spurt has been utilized to provide room for an optional third-row seat.

Its suspension is fully independent and features a double-wishbone design at every corner. Up front, the wishbones are made from aluminum to reduce unsprung weight. Audi is offering the Q7 with a traditional steel spring setup or an optional air spring system with electronically controlled dampers.

Between the two, the air suspension is the one to get all geeked up over. The driver can select different modes for specialized on-road or off-road performance. At high speeds, the system lowers the Q7's ride height to reduce its center of gravity and aerodynamic drag. Off-road, the ride height elevates to improve body clearance.

In addition, damper operation is tied into the different modes, and body roll is actively monitored and minimized during cornering through the control of damping force. Compared to an air suspension-equipped Touareg, the Q7 is more on-road-oriented and trades some maximum ground clearance for better handling dynamics.

In terms of handling, the air suspension-equipped and V8-powered Q7 we drove was surprisingly competent given its weight. On curvy roads, the SUV was secure and exhibited minimal body motions. In fact, we had a niggling feeling that a few drivers might find the Q7's ride quality to be a bit too sporty for normal driving.

We also took the Q7 on a dirt road. The road, alas, was a bit of a disappointment, as it provided the opportunity to kick up huge clouds of dust and do World Rally Championship navigator imitations but not much in the way of testing ground clearance. Then again, we don't expect Q7 owners to do much more off-roading than this, as the Q7 is not meant to be a serious boulder-bashing machine.

RS4-related V8 and plenty of features
To get the Q7's not-so-insubstantial weight of 2.5 tons moving, there are two engines available. The larger of the two, and the one that will be in all North American Q7s to start out with, is a new 4.2-liter V8. Related to the engine in the RS4 high-performance sedan, it features direct fuel injection, a new two-stage variable intake manifold and modifications to improve lubrication during off-road situations. Audi rates it at 350 horsepower at 6,800 rpm and a maximum of 325 pound-feet of torque at 3,500 rpm.

As a reduced-cost alternative, a 3.6-liter V6 will become available in the second half of 2006. It's the same engine used in the 2006 Touareg and is rated at 280 hp at 6,200 rpm and 265 lb-ft of torque from 2,500 rpm to 5,000 rpm.

For both engines, power is channeled through a six-speed Tiptronic automatic transmission to all four wheels. In this particular application of Audi's quattro system, the normal front-to-rear torque split is 42-to-58.

Acceleration is on par for a luxury crossover SUV. Official 0-to-62-mph acceleration times are 7 seconds for the V8 Q7 and 8.2 seconds for the V6. For comparison, Mercedes-Benz lists a 0-to-60-mph time of 6.7 seconds for the 2006 ML500. The last BMW X5 4.4i we tested hit 60 mph in 7.1 seconds. Audi also says the Q7 can tow 6,600 pounds when properly equipped, which is considerably more than the 3,500-pound limit for the Cadillac SRX and Infiniti FX45.

Carlike interior
On the inside, the Q7's dash layout is similar to the one in the A6. Audi's Multi-Media Interface (MMI), which features a console-mounted controller that allows the driver to adjust and select many of the car's features, is standard. MMI options are viewed on both the center stack's main screen and on the smaller screen in the gauge cluster. And as is the case with all modern Audis, the quality of the interior materials and detailing is extremely high.

As mentioned earlier, the Q7 can be had with a third-row seat, which bumps maximum occupancy to seven. The seats in the second row can be adjusted fore and aft and have a recline feature. Seating in the third row, as one might expect, is rather tight in terms of headroom for adults. Dropping the second and third rows for a flat load floor reveals 88 cubic feet of cargo space. A BMW X5 tops out at 69 cubic feet.

Unexpected extras
Most of the typical luxury and safety features expected on this class of vehicle are either standard or optional. The Q7 also boasts three special options not found on the typical SUV: an extended sunroof, an advanced adaptive cruise control system and Side Assist.

The three-section panorama sunroof extends nearly the entire length of the roof. Adaptive cruise control (ACC) uses radar to monitor and maintain the Q7's position in traffic and, in certain situations, can even bring the Q7 to a complete stop without any input from the driver. Also associated with ACC is a two-stage warning system that alerts the driver when a vehicle ahead has braked suddenly. Side Assist is another driver aid. It also utilizes radar but in this case notifies the Q7's driver when other motorists have entered the vehicle's blind spots by lighting up yellow LEDs in the exterior mirror housings.

Sort of like sending payments through online banking, both ACC and Side Assist require a bit of faith that they are working properly. Caught in heavy highway traffic, we turned on the ACC system. Though we will certainly assess it more thoroughly in a full road test, our initial observations confirmed that it does indeed work as advertised. Side Assist will probably be more useful for Q7 owners on a daily basis. It minimizes the need to turn one's head for lane checks and should help drivers who don't position the Q7's mirrors properly.

A competitive crossover SUV
Overall, we're impressed with the Q7. Certainly, there are many choices available for luxury SUVs these days. For buyers interested in the crossover type, the 2007 Audi Q7 should be one to check out. Its interior is top-notch, its feature content is attractive and its handling is vastly better than traditional seven-passenger SUVs.

Pricing for the V8 is set to start at $49,900, which pits the Q7 directly against the Mercedes-Benz M-Class and the next generation of BMW's X5. Only a comparison test will give us a winner out of that trio but for now the Audi Q7 has proved that it's more than just a "me, too!" SUV.
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Incredible interior, love those Audis. Very heavy however, still a contender for a replacement of our MDX in 3-4 years.
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Default Nothelle Q7 Bi-Turbo 4.2 V8 with 580 HP




Text & photos courtesy Nothelle GmbH
06-05-2006

Uprated Performance and Look

Up to 275 HP for 3.0 V6 TDI

Aerodynamics kit and electronically lowered suspension

Complete nothelle “NOVEDRA IX SPORT” wheel sets in 22-inch design


For over 38 years, the name “nothelle” has been synonymous with a passion for engineering excellence. Our tuning products for top automobiles of the Audi and Volkswagen brands meet the highest standards and combine our many years of experience in motor sports with the traditional nothelle values of quality and exclusivity.

The customizing products for Audi vehicles are born out of a passion for motor sports and innovative design. The Q7 is the latest addition to the Audi family. And nothelle, based in Ratingen, Germany, has already responded to the market launch of the new model by enhancing it both visually and in terms of power and dynamism.

Nothelle’s prime aim was to lend the huge SUV a sporty lifestyle look without detracting from its off-road capabilities. As a result, the nothelle Q7 is no yuppy-mobile, but continues to be a real all-rounder. A visit to a flashy restaurant? High-speed highway driving? Speedy uphill climbs on winding roads? Driving on rough terrain? The nothelle Q7 takes it all in stride, while at the same time cutting a sharp figure.

A real head-turner

nothelle is changing the external appearance of the Q7 by equipping it with a sporty and elegant body-styling kit. The kit consists of a lift-reducing front spoiler, an air inlet grille in the front apron, side skirts, a totally new rear apron including 4 sports tailpipes, wheel arch extensions and a roof spoiler for enhanced stability at high speeds.

With nothelle’s own-brand wheel rim from the Novedra series, the king size 10.0 x 22-inch “NOVEDRA IX SPORT”, fitted to the nothelle tires of technology partner KUMHO in sizes 295/30-22, the Q7 acquires a more powerful and individual look. The Q7 can be even more exclusively equipped with “NOVEDRA IX SPORT titanium edition“, “NOVEDRA IX SPORT black edition“ and “NOVEDRA IX SPORT brilliance edition“ wheels.

The new look and additional power is set off by the electronically lowered suspension in the form of an electronic module which nothelle has developed especially for the “Audi adaptive air suspension“ of the SUV produced in Ingolstadt, Germany. Needless to say, nothelle also has a sports spring kit for the factory-provided dynamic chassis.

In order to enhance the braking performance of the 2.3-ton vehicle, nothelle also developed a brake kit – for every eventuality.

Naturally, nothelle also offers multiple options for the alteration of the interior of the Q7. In the portfolio, for example, is a real leather interior range which lends the vehicle a luxury feel. As the crowning glory of the elegant interior, it is possible to build in an office complete with state-of-the-art multimedia components.

All products can be installed at any Audi dealer.

Sheer power

Scarcely visible from the outside, the alterations are all the more noticeable under the hood. The Q7 starts out with two engines, namely a large three-liter turbo diesel engine, the 3.0 V6 TDI with 500 nm of torque and 171 KW (233 HP), in addition to the large 4.2-liter V8 gasoline engine with 257 kW (350 HP). With a curb weight of 2.3 tons, it is hardly possible to talk about powerful motorization at this point. Each additional unit of horsepower and each nm of torque would produce superior locomotion.

Consequently nothelle is also boosting the power of both these engines. After passing through the hands of nothelle engineers for chip tuning or the installation of the N TRONIC BOX©, the 3.0 TDI generates an impressive 275 HP and delivers 600 nm of torque to the crankshaft at upwards of 1,750 RPM. The prices of such power enhancements range between 1,100 (chip tuning) and 1,500 euros (N TRONIC BOX) and include a two-year warranty.

As a rule, nothelle offers three enhanced performance options, each with different characteristics.

First is the N TRONIC BOX©, the intelligent power box for diesel engines. It is an additional ECU, which provides a significant yet not excessive power boost.

The LEADERCHIP© chip tuning type delivers similar power outputs and is designed for the demanding driver who wants more controlled power. The vehicle unleashes its full potential while at the same time maintaining its outstanding handling and consistently smooth running qualities. With well-balanced values, the engine offers significantly improved torque and enhanced power. It is the diplomat of the tuning chips with untamed pizzazz.

The third option offered by nothelle is BULLCHIP©, the power boost for drivers with sporting ambitions. It is characterized by its full power, breathtaking torque and phenomenal acceleration. It is the real muscle among the tuning chips.

In all its innovations, nothelle pays particular attention to ensure compliance with current exhaust emission standards.

In the case of gasoline variants as well, nothelle is reaching for the stars. A bi-turbo kit is being developed for the 4.2 V8, which draws up to 580 brute horsepower and 720 nm at 3,200 RPM from the direct injection engine. This should enable the Q7 to mutate into a real road beast!

Since the standard muffler failed the sound test, nothelle is replacing it with its own rear muffler featuring a sonorous purr and a 4-pipe look. nothelle also offers the option of replacing the entire exhaust system, allowing the Q7 to broadcast its newly gained power in no uncertain terms.

You can find out more information about the extensive Audi tuning range from nothelle at www.nothelle.com

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This thing looks awesome, I like it

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I stopped at an Audi dealer today to look at the Q7... wow, it is really nice!
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I just attended the Audi Q7 test drive event here in Dallas on Sunday. Got to drive the Q7 along side the Lexus GX470, BMW X5 4.4 and Volvo XC90 V8. The Audi was a hands down winner and we own a BMW X5. The car is not very fast but for its size it handles very well and drives very easy. The BMW goes off lease in December and the new Q7 may end up in our garage. It is a great all around SUV. Audi needed to get it right the first time since they are the last to hit the market with an SUV. Great vehicle.
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