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Old 07-06-06, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
probably running low boost around 5-6psi, if the old 3.0 was making 255 hp and the turbo 3.0 is making 306, not gonna feel turbo lag. Still guessing MSRP to be around 40 to low 40s
I think you're right. The boost will probably be 5-7 psi, meaning with a chip which raises it to ~15 or something...well, the S4 gets something like 100lbs/ft of torque from that jump, so I'd expect at least 70-80 from the 335i.
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Originally Posted by picus
I think you're right. The boost will probably be 5-7 psi, meaning with a chip which raises it to ~15 or something...well, the S4 gets something like 100lbs/ft of torque from that jump, so I'd expect at least 70-80 from the 335i.
would like to know how much the internals were strengthened, jumping from 5-7psi then to 15 psi is pretty drastic
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Old 07-06-06, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rominl
umm..... the car definitely looks better than the sedan, but somehow i feel that the car is losing a bit of the bmw status? maybe coz' it reminds me of the accord/civic?

i have no doubt on the performance though, that's always going to be bmw. just like no matter how ugly the 5 series is, it drives like heaven when you need the performance
Na, it is cause those pics are of a stock car without the sports package. I'm thinking with the blacked out trim and bigger wheels it should look much better.
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Originally Posted by doug_999
Na, it is cause those pics are of a stock car without the sports package. I'm thinking with the blacked out trim and bigger wheels it should look much better.
good point, could be (just like when i see a e46 with almost basic setup), definitely need to see this car in person later (better than the sedan, had no interest at all)
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Old 07-06-06, 09:15 AM
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Here are a couple scans from the accessory brouchure with the aero package installed. I don't think they're reposts.









I love the front and the rear is ok, but I am not feeling the spoiler. I think I will probably get the aero package minus the spoiler. I might put an aftermarket cf lip on or something.
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it's better, but i guess the rear is still a problem to me in that brochure.

okok, need to see the car in person
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
would like to know how much the internals were strengthened, jumping from 5-7psi then to 15 psi is pretty drastic
Yea I would like to know as well. Considering they are going for weight-savings and what not, I'm not sure if they put a cast iron sleeve in the cylinder or anything like that.

Also, I just looked up compression ratio, and it is 10.2:1. While lower than they're typical N/A engines, this is not as low as many turbo cars running higher pressures are. I'm think a safer boost to chip this car to would be around 9-10 more than 15. For example, my C70 runs 11.3 lbs stock and has an 8.5:1 and cast iron sleeves in the cylinders.

Are they bringing this engine in the sedan? It may change when I see it in person, but I definitely like the sedans looks over the coupe.

I'm sure this is going to be one very fun car to drive. A 5 series with this motor would be great as well!
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Official pricing is out!!
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23914

Base price:
328i: $35,300
335i: $40,600

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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
Official pricing is out!!
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23914

Base price:
328i: $35,300
335i: $40,600

Mine came out to be 47K with ZPP, ZSP and navi. that's 10K more than my IS350
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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
Official pricing is out!!
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23914

Base price:
328i: $35,300
335i: $40,600
Moving that baby upmarket eh?
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Originally Posted by Faraaz23
Yea I would like to know as well. Considering they are going for weight-savings and what not, I'm not sure if they put a cast iron sleeve in the cylinder or anything like that.

Also, I just looked up compression ratio, and it is 10.2:1. While lower than they're typical N/A engines, this is not as low as many turbo cars running higher pressures are. I'm think a safer boost to chip this car to would be around 9-10 more than 15. For example, my C70 runs 11.3 lbs stock and has an 8.5:1 and cast iron sleeves in the cylinders.

Are they bringing this engine in the sedan? It may change when I see it in person, but I definitely like the sedans looks over the coupe.

I'm sure this is going to be one very fun car to drive. A 5 series with this motor would be great as well!
The sedan 335i will be out next year.

As for pricing, my 335i would be $48,095 usd (prem, sport, leather, ca, nav); a comparably equipped IS350 would be $44,350, so 4k extra for the BMW in my case. Worth it? We'll see. Still waiting on CAD pricing here. If current US -> Can pricing is any indication the 335i will be ~50,995 base CAD (2k more than is350).
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some of the option packages lack content, $2450 for leather, compass, garage door opener, power folding mirrors, that shouldve came with the car already. At least the upgraded audio and power front seats are standard on the 335. Power seats a $995 dollar option geez, very stripped down

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Old 07-06-06, 12:40 PM
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Strange but it looks like the car comes with a sports suspension to begin with? The sports package does not list suspension changes other than wheels. Interesting.... I seem to remember the old coupe coming standard with a sports package at one time. With two kids, I don't do much coupe shoping these days....
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Originally Posted by doug_999
Strange but it looks like the car comes with a sports suspension to begin with? The sports package does not list suspension changes other than wheels. Interesting.... I seem to remember the old coupe coming standard with a sports package at one time. With two kids, I don't do much coupe shoping these days....
Yes, the coupe comes with the sports suspension, which includes a firmer ride and a from factory 0.8" lower; the sports package gets you the 18" wheels and the ability to add the paddle shifters if you've chosen an auto trans.

As for the options packages being sparse; I seem to recall a recent Lexus release that charged for Xenons. The BMW may charge a lot for things like power folding mirrors and (stupidly) metallic paint, but things like dual adaptive xenons, logic7, and sports suspension standard and $500 CA make up for it. These prices are pretty much right where they should be, imo.
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Prices are pretty much as expected. About $5000 more than a similarly equipped IS350. So the 335i sedan will probably be about $4000 more than a similarly equipped IS350.
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