Official BMW E92 3-series thread (UPDATE - 335i Dyno pg.48)
07-11-06, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rominl
you realize it's a prototype test car, so there are a lot of duct tape and missing parts right?
For me its the lines, headlights and the Hondaish shape the car has that turns me off.
07-11-06, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cliffud
uhhh...
i did read his sig. he has a red ferrari. the car he is sitting in is yellow...
i did read his sig. he has a red ferrari. the car he is sitting in is yellow...
07-11-06, 09:34 AM
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Holy crap.... 
..forget the BMW's, what do you do for a living Jimmy. It's still early in life for me and I want to make sure I'll be able to afford some of those nice cars that you drive, in the future.
..forget the BMW's, what do you do for a living Jimmy. It's still early in life for me and I want to make sure I'll be able to afford some of those nice cars that you drive, in the future.
07-11-06, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by picus
I guess the folks here on CL are the only ones that think the 2IS feels like the 3-series.
Lexus can compete on it's own merits, and yes the IS is a great car; and if it "feels" better to you that's great, but you're in the minority.
Lexus can compete on it's own merits, and yes the IS is a great car; and if it "feels" better to you that's great, but you're in the minority.
No, the IS does not "feel" like a 3 Series, and nor would I want it to.
I may be in the minority, but that's fine. I am stating my opinion, and if I liked BMWs I would be posting on a BMW forum rather than ClubLexus.
I'm not saying I hate BMWs, far from it. I just don't really have any preference towards them.
Oh, and if you believe that most 3 Series buyers/owners get the car for the great "feel" of it, or because they will really enjoy the handling and push the car, then more power to you. Of course, most people don't buy a 3 Series because of that.
07-11-06, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
No, the IS does not "feel" like a 3 Series, and nor would I want it to.
I may be in the minority, but that's fine. I am stating my opinion, and if I liked BMWs I would be posting on a BMW forum rather than ClubLexus.
I'm not saying I hate BMWs, far from it. I just don't really have any preference towards them.
I may be in the minority, but that's fine. I am stating my opinion, and if I liked BMWs I would be posting on a BMW forum rather than ClubLexus.
I'm not saying I hate BMWs, far from it. I just don't really have any preference towards them.
, but the car's drive/feel? I remember driving the last 3 series against the 1st gen IS at the Lexus event and being really surprised how the IS felt like a light 'go kart' and the BMW felt bigger, smoother, quieter.As you've said, the BMW is trying to balance between being sporty while at the same time fairly practical, which Lexus doesn't have to do because it has the two pronged competition (IS/ES).
But apart from an M3 (stiff, noisier) I've found a 3 series to be very smooth and comfortable to drive. I haven't driven the latest one but I've read it's even quieter and more refined. Sort of... Lexus-like?
Oh, and if you believe that most 3 Series buyers/owners get the car for the great "feel" of it, or because they will really enjoy the handling and push the car, then more power to you. Of course, most people don't buy a 3 Series because of that.
I've met many male and female 3 series drivers and they ALL drive 'spiritedly' shall we say. Now they ALSO like the IMAGE that comes with a 3 series, no question, but none of them drove it like granny.
07-11-06, 02:23 PM
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That's ironic coming from a Lexus owner.
I'm kidding of course; point is none of us are middle aged women, so who cares what they do with their cars? We drive ours hard, right? Right!
I'm kidding of course; point is none of us are middle aged women, so who cares what they do with their cars? We drive ours hard, right? Right!
07-11-06, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CHIS350
And you can keep the, what, 10% of drivers that actually drive a MT anymore?
And yes i do find that a lot of BMW/AUDI/MBZ owners have a chip...i find myself defending the virtues of Lexus on the BMW/Audi forums as well.
07-11-06, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by picus
That's ironic coming from a Lexus owner.
I'm kidding of course; point is none of us are middle aged women, so who cares what they do with their cars? We drive ours hard, right? Right!
I'm kidding of course; point is none of us are middle aged women, so who cares what they do with their cars? We drive ours hard, right? Right!
07-11-06, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
Oh, and if you believe that most 3 Series buyers/owners get the car for the great "feel" of it, or because they will really enjoy the handling and push the car, then more power to you. Of course, most people don't buy a 3 Series because of that.
Originally Posted by CHIS350
Most of the 3 series owners I see are middle aged women
07-11-06, 09:37 PM
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Don't like that front bumper/spoiler.
Like this side view and the rims.