Official BMW E92 3-series thread (UPDATE - 335i Dyno pg.48)
09-13-06, 10:17 AM
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theres a new dyno from vishnu which using 15% loss makes around 320 hp 340 trq, thats a lot more reasonable compared to this 350/360 business. Now just fix its midrange to high rpm torque with some aftermarket and it will be a beast on the strip/track. In its stock form too much of its torque is placed in its lower rpms which you dont touch but once when your stripping/tracking (mid-high), but its good for city driving.
09-13-06, 11:20 AM
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09-13-06, 11:45 AM
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but the new 3 generates a lot of interests for sure, as to be expected . . .
09-13-06, 02:18 PM
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Ok, I don't think I've mentioned this, maybe I have but... I don't understand why they have the chrome around the windows - even with the sports package. I prefer my trim blacked out.
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09-13-06, 03:32 PM
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I agree. I would venture to guess it won't be long before we see OEM shadow-black trim. It's available in the individual program, so it should show up in NA soon.
09-29-06, 08:26 AM
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BMW's next M3 confirmed for 2007
Glenn Butler, drive.com.au, 28/09/06
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...ID=20369&vf=13
M-Sport boss confirms details of new M3 will be revealed ahead of the car's world debut at 2007 Frankfurt show next September, reports GLENN BUTLER.
BMW M3
BMW M division's boss Ulrich Bruhnke has confirmed the successor to the 252kW BMW M3 coupe will star at the Frankfurt motor show in September 2007 ahead of a 2008 world launch. "It will be there definitely," Bruhnke told drive.com.au at the launch of the M6 convertible in southern France earlier this week.
"The Frankfurt International motor show is so important [to BMW] we must show it there."
Early reports that the M3 successor would be shown this month in Paris are unfounded, says BMW Australia spokesperson Nadine Giusti.
"I have seen BMW's Paris press kit and there is no mention of the next-generation M3."
Historically Paris would seem too soon for the range-topping, high-performance sports car to debut, given that it has traditionally been launched 12-18 months after the 3 Series coupe on which it is based. The latest-generation 3 Series coupe is less than six months old.
Heavy speculation surrounds potential powerhouses for the rear-drive M3 replacement, but a 420hp (315kW) V8 engine of around 4.0 litres is the unbackable favourite to replace today's 252kW, 3.2-litre six-cylinder engine – acclaimed as one of the world's great engines.
The exact size of the V8 – based on the M5's and M6's 373kW 5.0-litre V10 with two less cylinders – will be important in figuring out the horsepower because BMW's M division prides itself on extracting more than 100hp per litre.
The M3's main rivals, the Mercedes-Benz C55 AMG and Audi RS4, have around 360hp (268kW) and 420hp (313kW) respectively, though the former is apparently in line for a 510hp (380kW) 6.3-litre V8 in the near future.
The new M3 is also expected to get the second-generation, 7-speed SMG sequential manual transmission from the M5 and M6, along with a 6-speed manual for export markets like North America. Australia is not likely to get a manual transmission version when the car arrives in 2008 – just one-in-10 current-generation M3 sales are manuals.
Bruhnke would not be drawn on specifics for the fifth-generation 3 Series-based high-performance coupe, saying only that "you will know more before the auto show".
His message to the legions of M division fans is clear: "We never do a boring product and you will enjoy driving the car."
He was also dismissive of Mercedes-Benz AMG's insatiable appetite for engine performance at any cost, saying the next M3 would stay faithful to the driving dynamics and handling balance that the M reputation is built on.
"We are much more than just the biggest engine in every car."
BMW M3
BMW M division's boss Ulrich Bruhnke has confirmed the successor to the 252kW BMW M3 coupe will star at the Frankfurt motor show in September 2007 ahead of a 2008 world launch. "It will be there definitely," Bruhnke told drive.com.au at the launch of the M6 convertible in southern France earlier this week.
"The Frankfurt International motor show is so important [to BMW] we must show it there."
Early reports that the M3 successor would be shown this month in Paris are unfounded, says BMW Australia spokesperson Nadine Giusti.
"I have seen BMW's Paris press kit and there is no mention of the next-generation M3."
Historically Paris would seem too soon for the range-topping, high-performance sports car to debut, given that it has traditionally been launched 12-18 months after the 3 Series coupe on which it is based. The latest-generation 3 Series coupe is less than six months old.
Heavy speculation surrounds potential powerhouses for the rear-drive M3 replacement, but a 420hp (315kW) V8 engine of around 4.0 litres is the unbackable favourite to replace today's 252kW, 3.2-litre six-cylinder engine – acclaimed as one of the world's great engines.
The exact size of the V8 – based on the M5's and M6's 373kW 5.0-litre V10 with two less cylinders – will be important in figuring out the horsepower because BMW's M division prides itself on extracting more than 100hp per litre.
The M3's main rivals, the Mercedes-Benz C55 AMG and Audi RS4, have around 360hp (268kW) and 420hp (313kW) respectively, though the former is apparently in line for a 510hp (380kW) 6.3-litre V8 in the near future.
The new M3 is also expected to get the second-generation, 7-speed SMG sequential manual transmission from the M5 and M6, along with a 6-speed manual for export markets like North America. Australia is not likely to get a manual transmission version when the car arrives in 2008 – just one-in-10 current-generation M3 sales are manuals.
Bruhnke would not be drawn on specifics for the fifth-generation 3 Series-based high-performance coupe, saying only that "you will know more before the auto show".
His message to the legions of M division fans is clear: "We never do a boring product and you will enjoy driving the car."
He was also dismissive of Mercedes-Benz AMG's insatiable appetite for engine performance at any cost, saying the next M3 would stay faithful to the driving dynamics and handling balance that the M reputation is built on.
"We are much more than just the biggest engine in every car."
09-29-06, 08:51 AM
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I am pretty sure that after the E90/E92 M3 comes out, with 400+HP, then BMW will be more "honest" about the true spec of the 335i. They may even play the marketing game and introduce a 335si with around 340hp, or make it like a ZHP package.
09-29-06, 10:07 PM
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and 400+ hp M3 will actually have 600hp...
09-29-06, 10:38 PM
#730
p.s. if 335i is truly an 340hp car, what does that make IS350? If you factor on that 335i's were Manual, and 350 is always AT, apples to apples there is 5whp difference, if that...
