Chevrolet Cobalt = Best Tuner Car?
#1
Chevrolet Cobalt = Best Tuner Car?
Time Attack Results? http://superstreetonline.com/eventco...11_timeattack/
It has won many time attack events against cars with superior suspension configurations - EVOs, Skylines, STis - and against cars with much greater power advantage.
Specifications
• Stage 2+ Ecotec engine developed by GM Performance Division and GM Powertrain
o 264 hp @ 7000 rpm (344 horsepower @ 6800 rpm with nitrous boost)
o 230 lb.-ft. of torque at 4000 rpm (350 lb.-ft. of torque @ 3600 rpm with nitrous boost)
• Eaton M-62 Gen 5 Hybrid supercharger
• Carbon fiber body panels (fenders, hood, doors, roof, decklid, side splitters and spoiler)
• Modified suspension, tires and brakes
• Glass replaced with Lexan
• Corsa exhaust system
• Fuel cell
• Nitrous oxide system
• Race paint scheme with sponsor logos
• Race wheels
• Minimal interior trim
• Full roll cage and side net
• Sparco race steering wheel
• Safety system per National Auto Sport Association race rules
• Sparco carbon fiber race seat
• Race gauge package
It has won many time attack events against cars with superior suspension configurations - EVOs, Skylines, STis - and against cars with much greater power advantage.
Specifications
• Stage 2+ Ecotec engine developed by GM Performance Division and GM Powertrain
o 264 hp @ 7000 rpm (344 horsepower @ 6800 rpm with nitrous boost)
o 230 lb.-ft. of torque at 4000 rpm (350 lb.-ft. of torque @ 3600 rpm with nitrous boost)
• Eaton M-62 Gen 5 Hybrid supercharger
• Carbon fiber body panels (fenders, hood, doors, roof, decklid, side splitters and spoiler)
• Modified suspension, tires and brakes
• Glass replaced with Lexan
• Corsa exhaust system
• Fuel cell
• Nitrous oxide system
• Race paint scheme with sponsor logos
• Race wheels
• Minimal interior trim
• Full roll cage and side net
• Sparco race steering wheel
• Safety system per National Auto Sport Association race rules
• Sparco carbon fiber race seat
• Race gauge package
#7
Originally Posted by GSteg
GM spent so much money on that car.
I believe the 4th place honda S2000 had NOTHING done to the engine. C-west wanted to show what suspension alone can do to the s2k and I think that's pretty amazing since it's right behind the 800whp skyline.
I believe the 4th place honda S2000 had NOTHING done to the engine. C-west wanted to show what suspension alone can do to the s2k and I think that's pretty amazing since it's right behind the 800whp skyline.
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#9
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by SinisterSC
People always forget that "Money talks, bull**** walks"
IMO...yes and no. I have not formally reviewed one, but what I have seen of it indicates that both its build quality and fit-and-finish is somewhat better than the Cavalier it replaces, though it still has someof that old GM cheapness about it.
Now...as to the question of it being a good tuner car, probably yes. A good deal of tuner and aftermarket parts are available at reasonable cost, though you have to be careful about modifying engines from factory settings. If you don't know what you are doing ( and too many do-it-yourselfers DON'T ) you can really screw things up.
#11
The most notable thing about it is that it handidly defeated other cars that are technologically superior and much more powerful. From what I've read, they didnt modify it that much other than stripping it down. The engine barely produced more power than stock and the rear beam suspension was retained. In comparison the other cars went with expensive turbo set ups, advance awd systems, expensive brakes
#12
Lexus Champion
Originally Posted by xknowonex
The most notable thing about it is that it handidly defeated other cars that are technologically superior and much more powerful. From what I've read, they didnt modify it that much other than stripping it down. The engine barely produced more power than stock and the rear beam suspension was retained. In comparison the other cars went with expensive turbo set ups, advance awd systems, expensive brakes
SC
NoS
CF body panels
Lexan windows
full cage
full suspension
This qualifies as heavily modified. If a stock engined S2000 with only suspension mods can come close, I don't think the Cobalt can be called the best tuner car.
How about best tuner car if the only thing you don't change is the engine block?
#13
Originally Posted by pvmike1
The car has:
SC
NoS
CF body panels
Lexan windows
full cage
full suspension
This qualifies as heavily modified. If a stock engined S2000 with only suspension mods can come close, I don't think the Cobalt can be called the best tuner car.
How about best tuner car if the only thing you don't change is the engine block?
SC
NoS
CF body panels
Lexan windows
full cage
full suspension
This qualifies as heavily modified. If a stock engined S2000 with only suspension mods can come close, I don't think the Cobalt can be called the best tuner car.
How about best tuner car if the only thing you don't change is the engine block?
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Originally Posted by xknowonex
Time Attack Results? http://superstreetonline.com/eventco...11_timeattack/
It has won many time attack events against cars with superior suspension configurations - EVOs, Skylines, STis - and against cars with much greater power advantage.
Specifications
• Stage 2+ Ecotec engine developed by GM Performance Division and GM Powertrain
o 264 hp @ 7000 rpm (344 horsepower @ 6800 rpm with nitrous boost)
o 230 lb.-ft. of torque at 4000 rpm (350 lb.-ft. of torque @ 3600 rpm with nitrous boost)
• Eaton M-62 Gen 5 Hybrid supercharger
• Carbon fiber body panels (fenders, hood, doors, roof, decklid, side splitters and spoiler)
• Modified suspension, tires and brakes
• Glass replaced with Lexan
• Corsa exhaust system
• Fuel cell
• Nitrous oxide system
• Race paint scheme with sponsor logos
• Race wheels
• Minimal interior trim
• Full roll cage and side net
• Sparco race steering wheel
• Safety system per National Auto Sport Association race rules
• Sparco carbon fiber race seat
• Race gauge package
It has won many time attack events against cars with superior suspension configurations - EVOs, Skylines, STis - and against cars with much greater power advantage.
Specifications
• Stage 2+ Ecotec engine developed by GM Performance Division and GM Powertrain
o 264 hp @ 7000 rpm (344 horsepower @ 6800 rpm with nitrous boost)
o 230 lb.-ft. of torque at 4000 rpm (350 lb.-ft. of torque @ 3600 rpm with nitrous boost)
• Eaton M-62 Gen 5 Hybrid supercharger
• Carbon fiber body panels (fenders, hood, doors, roof, decklid, side splitters and spoiler)
• Modified suspension, tires and brakes
• Glass replaced with Lexan
• Corsa exhaust system
• Fuel cell
• Nitrous oxide system
• Race paint scheme with sponsor logos
• Race wheels
• Minimal interior trim
• Full roll cage and side net
• Sparco race steering wheel
• Safety system per National Auto Sport Association race rules
• Sparco carbon fiber race seat
• Race gauge package
If Toyota had a fully factored backed TRD Corolla in this time attack, chances are it would have put on some serious pain onto most of the other cars ... but then it wouldn't be a fair comparison at all.
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Super Moderator
I could also get just about any car tuned up. We have plenty of VWs pounding out 500 hp + south of the border and I hear B.S. all the time about what great cars they are, but what they don't tell you is how many things they have to endlessly fix to keep these cars running.
Granted, I would like to see Chevy do well just because it is an American company, but tuning up one of these things and not putting the same vehicle in the showroom for prices comparable to Japanese sports machines, won't get me into a Chevy dealer anytime soon.
Granted, I would like to see Chevy do well just because it is an American company, but tuning up one of these things and not putting the same vehicle in the showroom for prices comparable to Japanese sports machines, won't get me into a Chevy dealer anytime soon.