LexFather

U think so? I think its fantastic

LexFather

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...0/pageNumber=1

1. Camry XLE V6
2. Accord EX V6 with Nav
3. Hyundai Sonata LX V6
4. Ford Fusion SEL V6

I LOVE MAGAZINE ARGUING

LexFather

Actually, I like the Fusion, IMO, a huge step over the Contour. I like the interior, as I like the Camry interior. I think the Fusion styling is more bland that a Camry. Slapping IS 300 Altezzas on the rear and a G35 front, with last generation Jetta sides, is not style.

The Camry with Tl lights, a giant grill, and a 7 trunk, is not style either.


Not sure why people want STYLE in this class. I want reliability, space, a few features and I just want to know the car is going to start every morning.

I think some people just want every car to be like a BMW or Lexus.

That is not these cars roles and we should not expect them to be like that

LexusLuver

I've driven the Accord extensively, and have seat time in the new Camry. The choice is easy for me. Camry is a far superior car in comparision.

picus

I've been seeing a lot of Fusions around here. I think maybe they're assembled nearby, dunno. Anyway, I don't like the exterior that much but I don't really like the Camry either. I'd have to drive both to pick a winner but just based on reliabilty ratings I'd lean towards the Camry for sure.

GSteg

iTrader: (15)

Give me an accord V6 6spd. The fun family sedan that looks pretty agressive. It also handles nicely, but not sacrificing too much ride comfort. Now only Honda puts more low end ***** out of the car. get rid of that 3.0L and up it to 3.2L.

newr

I agree! I was very disappointed in the CE and LE interior when I checked them out.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

Yes, it's an improvement over the ULTRA bland previous gen.

That's one of my biggest beefs with it. I just the pale blue plastic looks beyond cheap. Worse even than most fake wood.

OK - just looked at these 3 pics:





The first two pics are from Toyota's site and are of course as flattering as possible, but the third pic from Edmunds shows more clearly the acres of flat gray plastic on the center console and stack with the shifter looking very lonely in it.

I do think the 4 spoke steering wheel with lots of controls looks MUCH better than the 3 spoke one.

The overall proportions of the dash are decent though. My problem is more with materials and colors.

LexusLuver

I don't think so. During my test drive I didn't even notice the panel, which appears as a centerpiece in pics. It was otherwise invisible to me.

I'm curious to know what you consider in this class better than the Camry's interior. The Accord btw, isn't there.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

Not sure what you mean on this last point. I think the Accord interior is better than the new Camry, yes, although the Accord still has a large plain expanse of silver/gray plastic near the shifter too.

UberNoob

so what
there are still reliable ford cars out there

Escort for example

also Crown Victoria
thats why its such a famous fleet vehicle
incredibly tough and durable

both Escort and Crown Vic's reliability has been rated high by consumer reports

that said, fusion doesnt look as hot as new camry
its trying that mature and luxury look but the materials just arent cutting it

im so dissapointed in camry's interior though
for once, ford beats toyota in interior quality!

that baby blue plastic in the new camry is the result of a seriously stupid decision
i know they want the car to look younger to attract younger crowds but the fact is, thats what corolla is for
they shouldve kept the camry to a mature interior design

doesnt toyota have any proper focus groups?

SteVTEC

You forgot the body kit junk on the SE, which made me want to vomit. I think the Fusion looks pretty elegant and stylish without looking tacky like the Camry SE does.


Most domestics have no problems starting in the morning. Why wouldn't people want style? Wanting style or not does not track with how much you want to spend or the type of vehicle you're looking for, but rather more with the personality. Family sedans do not have to be dull, boring, and bland, which is why cars like the Mazda6 sell so well. On paper it just has a tough time competing with the Camry and Accord. But the styling is what sells it, along with the better handling and braking.

Or maybe they just want them to look exciting, or (shudder) AMERICAN! The Chrysler 300C was an instant hit and they still sell tons of them. Now compare that to the Charger. That one is extremely dull looking to me, and it's also a dud.

GSteg

iTrader: (15)

When my friend was shopping for her car, looks was on her priority list. It was the first thing, then came everything else. Thus she chose an accord coupe

flipside909

Heheh we can all agree the New Camry's styling is a love hate thing. I personally like the SE version myself. It's a big step forward from the Gen 4 days of the TRD Molly Design kit packages.

Our club back in the day was one of the first to push out the Camry and Solara TRD Packages...it's nice to know there's some sort of sport influence in these cars today. Long live the good 'ol days of Camryman's Passing Lane and TeamSC3.

flipside909

Yep i agree. If they would have darkened the color down to a neutral gray or black...or even using a different accent...like aluminum or something would have been much better. They're trying too hard to re-invent and mix in the reverse optitron guages like the Gen2 GS.