conekiller

Keep an eye on your cars.

http://news.com.com/Gone+in+60+secon...tml?tag=st.num

caymandive

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I'm assuming our Lexus has 40-bit code?

pocky

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Haha, Gotta love the end part, that is so blunt.

Anyway, there was a previous article already discussed, and it says it takes 20 minutes to decode and steal the vehicle.

Ichigo

I figure if someone is targeting my car to steal it, they are probably going to steal it. Both a $100 alarm system and a $1000 alarm system will not do much to stop a professional thief. It may delay them a bit, but at the end of the day, your car will get stolen. Thats why the best thing to have isnt a car alarm, its car insurance.

Inabj2

Wrong kinda thinking. Even proffesional thieves want to get something that will give them the least hassle as possible.

Personally I think the best route is to mix old tech with high tech. Have a fancy keyless entry system? I bet you even a proffesional thief, will not be expecting a and old school toggle switch hidden about or a few hidden about in a high end vehicle.

That and it should be legally allowed to.. end thieves. We dont need that kinda crap in todays society.

DASHOCKER

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Pager alarm anyone? It will alert you of an attack so you can take appropriate action or

dnszoom

Well, some may disagree as the overall value or piece of mind that a theft deterrent device offers is far greater than mitigating loss through insurance. In some occasions, the cost of a theft deterrent system is recovered in insurance premium savings (as a result of having a professionally installed system).

Back to topic - the RFID and wireless vendors supplying these remote entry/keyless ignition technologies really need to be pressured by consumer and insurance groups to upgrade their encryption key length to 128 bits AES or ECC.

sha4000

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really disturbing but ive already come to the conclusion that nothings safe

spiralynth

Do we know if the GS is a 40 or 128-bit encrytion? I can't find it anywhere the official site.

Also the official site states that the GS 430/350/450h utilize an immobilizer. How can that possibly be as there is no key?

"Engine Immobilizer
A tiny transponder embedded in the key sends a personal identification code to the engine control computer. Unless the system reads the proper code, the computer will not enable the ignition and fuel injection, thus immobilizing the vehicle. "

http://www.lexus.com/lexus-main/mode...fications.html

CK6Speed

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The immobilizer doesn't have to be embedded in the key. It could be in the remote. Also, if you had a one of those Lexus' that had the immobilizer in the key, you would have also gotten the spare flat key (The on on that credit card sized plastic) that had the immobilizer chip on the plastic case. To start the car with that key, you would have to hold the case near the ignition.

foofighter

there was a post on an article not too long ago about someone's car getting stolen and the insurance company would cover it because it had the immobilizer and it couldnt possibly get stolen (in their words) so they didnt cover the guy's loss.

I wonder how much of a PITA it would be to convince your insurance that it was stolen!

IS_Mine

Well I guess parking faaaaaaaaar out in the parking lot to get away from cars is no longer a safe idea!

PureDrifter

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il hafta agree with this but its getting harder and harder to put such a simple fail-safe on increasingly complicated cars

that being said, my LS and my dad's LS both have some "surprises"

CK6Speed

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One of the oldest tricks we used to do when I worked at a dealer long ago to the cars we parked in a different lot was to pull the ECU fuse. It kind of worked the same as an engine immobilizer, only low tech. The good thing is most thieves would never bother to check the fuse

DriftNsc3

Thats awsome. I new it was only a matter of time before thses unstealabele cars would become stealable.