rominl

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yup, one thing doesn't change for sure, i am waiting for your m6 to come and you promise you will let me sit in it ok?

like gene said, the m5/m6 has 2 pots, not 1 pot and 8 pot on the e55 and cls55, so what? you have to see the braking test on the mb amg. they look nice, but their braking is far from good compared to the m5. the m5 stops very flat and much shorter distance than the amg

mmarshall

To be honest here, even as somewhat of a Subaru fan, I am really surprised that the Honda 2.2 in-line 4 used in the S2000 did not take the prize in this category. Unlike the Subaru 2.5 Turbo, Honda's 2.2 makes a maximum 240 HP with just normal aspiration, although the max torque figure ( like with many Honda fours ) is quite a bit lower, and the engine has to be revved to almost insane levels to get both.

SoCalSC4

When revved-up past 4,000 rpm the BMW V10 sounds okay, but at idle it sounds like a heavily-muffled dump truck.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it isn't a performer... it is. (but I still prefer the low-end torque of the supercharged AMG engines over the peaky BMW V10)

The old V8 M5 sounded MUCH better at low speeds and just off of idle.

(The 1UZ with the exhaust uncorked sounds great, too)

Agreed, the new Toyota 3.5 V6 (and its' variants in the Camry, Rav4, and Avalon) should be on the list.

Vladi

It is. It's 2nd in categories of the best new engine and 3-4 liter engine.

LINK

SoCalSC4

That's a random statement. It's too bad people get caught-up in the "multi-piston" and "bigger is better" race when it comes to braking systems. You can achieve the same clamping force with two large pistons that you can with eight small ones. It's all about brake torque and how it is applied & managed. I guess there is still a lot of mis-information out there.

From the StopTech website:
"Won't bigger caliper pistons stop better?
A bigger set of caliper pistons will provide more clamping pressure on that axle, but could have a negative effect on total brake performance. If the pistons are too large for the application there will be excessive pedal travel and an adverse change in front to rear balance resulting in extended stopping distances. Also, clamping forces can easily become so strong that pre-mature lock-up will occur making brake modulation difficult. "

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Your right I guess I was just in aww seeing a 4 door luxury beast powerslide against some exotics. M5 M5 M5

rominl

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oh dont' get me wrong, for sure it looks cool

i think on real race, some drifting is good (right at the boundary of losing traction. that means you get max traction possible out of the setup). but once you start to drift more, it's more of a show than a race