This is why BMW always has one up on us...
07-11-06, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
The SMG transmission on BMW's are great when used like a manual transmission and driven hard and in a sporty manner. It is a little touchy in the full automatic mode though. That is why reviewers rave about it since they are shifting it themselves, but everyday people who put it in auto mode are less than happy with it. The Audi DSG is great when shifting, but also surprisingly smooth in auto mode as if it had a torque convertor. It is basically the next step up and I don't really see any reason why a torque convertor based automatic would be needed in the future if these clutchless shift manuals are getting that smooth.
07-11-06, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
The discontinued Toyota MR-2 offered SMG, but from my reading it wasn't great.
07-11-06, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
If I'm not mistaken they called it SST right. Also, I blieve it was a full manual with no auto option. All these clutchless manual transmission work well when you manually shift then. What makes others stand above the rest is how they perform in auto mode.
07-11-06, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CHIS350
BMW PARKBLITZ
-instructions for use-
1. use i-drive to select "parking features"
2. select "BMW PARKBLITZ"
3. use i-drive wheel to set timer
4. clap 3 times
5. exit car
6. open trunk
7. depress "Begin BMW PARKBLITZ" button on inside of trunk....timer will start.
8. let your silly American eyes feast on the superior parking dynamics, made in Deutchland
-instructions for use-
1. use i-drive to select "parking features"
2. select "BMW PARKBLITZ"
3. use i-drive wheel to set timer
4. clap 3 times
5. exit car
6. open trunk
7. depress "Begin BMW PARKBLITZ" button on inside of trunk....timer will start.
8. let your silly American eyes feast on the superior parking dynamics, made in Deutchland
07-12-06, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
The SMG transmission on BMW's are great when used like a manual transmission and driven hard and in a sporty manner. It is a little touchy in the full automatic mode though. That is why reviewers rave about it since they are shifting it themselves, but everyday people who put it in auto mode are less than happy with it. The Audi DSG is great when shifting, but also surprisingly smooth in auto mode as if it had a torque convertor. It is basically the next step up and I don't really see any reason why a torque convertor based automatic would be needed in the future if these clutchless shift manuals are getting that smooth.
Once you've driven DSG you will be hooked.....you'll never want to go back to conventional SMT's again. The only question is how well it will hold up in service....most of them are so new that they don't have a lot of miles on them yet.
CVT's are even more efficient in some ways, but they give wierd driving sensations, less of a sense of control, and have questionable drive belt durability.
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