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Old 07-20-06, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Ranking makes no sense.

Ferrari is:
- slowest (including at the track)
- most expensive
- such poor fuel economy means it has a MUCH bigger gas tank which will make it even slower when full
- highest cost to maintain

It's certainly the rarest, and may arguably be the best looking, but these cars are more about performance and the Ferrari comes up short.

The Corvette may have bad seats (article says) but I think I could afford some Recaros with the HALF PRICE it costs compared to the others. The Corvette is an amazing bargain.
Definitely, the Vette is the best peformance bargain here!
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The 996 turbo ?
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Old 07-20-06, 11:44 AM
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The Vette Z06 would be my pick. What did C&D do here. Brute power with that 505 horse LS7. The numbers on the track, price, looks, sound. I love it. American muscle rules
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Those F430 times are a bit slow.....i;ve seen a few tests with 11.7 1/4 mile times for it....
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
sorry mileage is irrelevant in this type of test, why even consider it, thats like ranking the trunk space in a supercar shootout test, who cares
You're right, EXCEPT the Ferrari has a 50% bigger fuel tank because it has 50% worse mileage and the extra 8 gallons of fuel adds WEIGHT which will slow down the car. As far as running costs though it's completely irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by JZA80MHU38
When and where did you drive the 997 Turbo? Is it avail in North America yet?
been out for about a month now
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Old 07-20-06, 02:38 PM
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LFA, please
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Old 07-20-06, 02:53 PM
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Z06 is amazing....

Personally, the new Z06 would be a great daily driver....

I would get a Gallardo > F430

991 993 Porsche Turbo S >>> this one
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Old 07-20-06, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JZA80MHU38
When and where did you drive the 997 Turbo? Is it avail in North America yet?
I believe it's been in North America for about 45 days now. The guy who owns it received in about 3 weeks ago and I did the virgin detail on it (just wash, clay, prime, AJ). He also owns a 575 Maranello and RR Phantom... I asked him to adopt me but I don't think he thought I was serious. I was!

Incidentally I like the 575M more than the 997T, not from the sport car perspective, just overall.
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Originally Posted by picus
I believe it's been in North America for about 45 days now. The guy who owns it received in about 3 weeks ago and I did the virgin detail on it (just wash, clay, prime, AJ). He also owns a 575 Maranello and RR Phantom... I asked him to adopt me but I don't think he thought I was serious. I was!

Incidentally I like the 575M more than the 997T, not from the sport car perspective, just overall.
man, love your job

well maybe he got too many requests on adoption anyway
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Originally Posted by picus
I believe it's been in North America for about 45 days now. The guy who owns it received in about 3 weeks ago and I did the virgin detail on it (just wash, clay, prime, AJ). He also owns a 575 Maranello and RR Phantom... I asked him to adopt me but I don't think he thought I was serious. I was!

Incidentally I like the 575M more than the 997T, not from the sport car perspective, just overall.
Wow very nice!

You walk in rarefied cirlces my friend!

BTW, what is "AJ"? How do you get contacts like this anyway? Do you advertise your business in the Yellow pages and other avenues? What makes an owner of such cars pick you instead of other detailers? Just curious to know how you get your business that's all.
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Old 07-21-06, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
Wow very nice!

You walk in rarefied cirlces my friend!

BTW, what is "AJ"? How do you get contacts like this anyway? Do you advertise your business in the Yellow pages and other avenues? What makes an owner of such cars pick you instead of other detailers? Just curious to know how you get your business that's all.
AJ = Werkstatt Acrylic Jett, it's a paint sealant that's similar to Zaino, Klasse SG, FMJ etc... I use it because I like the look on silver and the Porsche is silver.

My detailing business is geared such that I cater more to "well off" customers. It's just like any segment of business; you have different providers that are designed to serve different markets. The quality of my work, the time I spend working on cars, the products I use, and of course my prices reflect that. As with any trade if you do good work people will find you. I don't do much advertising since Yellow Pages/store ads tend to draw from a demographic I generally don't serve; so I just rely on word of mouth really. Exotic car owners travel in small circles, so if you do well by one the others tend to find you. ]

Of course not every car I do is exotic, in fact most of them are cars we all own like G35s, 330is, IS's, etc... but still, owners of those cars are generally looking for quality work rather than cheap work.

Surprisingly there is probably more money in the mainstream detailing segment, but I'm not so much in it to make a killing as I am because I enjoy it, I enjoy the cars I work on and I enjoy meeting other car enthusiasts. So it works out.

Cheers.

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well maybe he got too many requests on adoption anyway
Haha ya totally. If he adopted everyone who asked he'd be poor.
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Old 07-21-06, 09:40 PM
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I've never understood the appeal of the 911 turbo. If you want a Porsche, buy the GT3. It's more fun, and fun is what counts.

The Z06 is a brilliant machine. Using relatively simple technology, it hands the competition its *** on the track and the drag strip time and time and time again, and people still have the nerve to call it "poorly engineered" or "mullet mobile" just because of the badge. I guess that's what having a small ***** will do to you.
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Old 07-21-06, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JZA80MHU38
You think they show an amazing bias to Ferrari? Read their articles about Honda/Acura and BMWs.
You should consider getting one of the three (Ferrari, Honda, or BMW) and then you will understand
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Old 07-22-06, 12:27 PM
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R&T did a similiar comparo, Ferrari dominates that one too

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