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Old 07-28-06, 06:03 AM
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Default C&D Review: 2007 ES350 (6.2s 0-60)

C&D had a test review of the 2007 ES350 in their latest issue.

They said in conclusion that it was the near perfect cruiser to go from point A or point B in comfort.

They did have some complaints:

1) The more powerful engine resulted in more torque steer than the previous model.

2) Lexus told them that handling and suspension were tightened, but they couldn't tell any improvement. Handling was as sluggish as the previous model.

3) Jerkiness that could be felt through the steering wheel when going over imperfections (they said that Camrys and ES330 did this as well), without giving the driver any road feedback.


BTW, 0-60 was 6.2s. I forgot the 1/4 mile. I'll post more when I get home.
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Originally Posted by jrock65
C&D had a test review of the 2007 ES350 in their latest issue.

They said in conclusion that it was the near perfect cruiser to go from point A or point B in comfort.

They did have some complaints:

1) The more powerful engine resulted in more torque steer than the previous model.

2) Lexus told them that handling and suspension were tightened, but they couldn't tell any improvement. Handling was as sluggish as the previous model.

3) Jerkiness that could be felt through the steering wheel when going over imperfections (they said that Camrys and ES330 did this as well), without giving the driver any road feedback.


BTW, 0-60 was 6.2s. I forgot the 1/4 mile. I'll post more when I get home.
As a 2nd gen ES owner, I never thought I would see a 0-60 time of that for an ES. Wow.

I agree, too much power+ FWD= a mess. I don't care who makes it.
 
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C&D times are always quicker than anyone else. I don't know how they do it.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
As a 2nd gen ES owner, I never thought I would see a 0-60 time of that for an ES. Wow.

I agree, too much power+ FWD= a mess. I don't care who makes it.
Even on an RS4?
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Old 07-28-06, 01:30 PM
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CHIS350, for your information, the Audi RS4 is an All-Wheel-Drive (AWD) vehicle, not Front-Wheel-Drive (FWD)
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ok a quattro-less S4!
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ok a quattro-less S4!
No such thing. All S cars are AWD.The RS 4 has new for the first time for Audi, 40/60 RWD bias.

There are FWD A4s, the stock 1.8 now 2.0 for example.

THe RL is AWD but 70/30 FWD bias.

I think the GS is 30/70 RWD bias.
 
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I think the GS is 30/70 RWD bias.
That is not acceptable for a car that wants to compete with the 5 series
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Originally Posted by CHIS350
That is not acceptable for a car that wants to compete with the 5 series
Please elaborate
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Originally Posted by CHIS350
That is not acceptable for a car that wants to compete with the 5 series
Well, if the AWD version has a rear-wheel bias 70% , thats actually good for handling and performance (compared to other AWD models)... the new RS4 is only 40:60 rear wheel bias and it handles very well. But then again, there's always the regular RWD GS to compare with the RWD 5 series.
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They wanted to give it a sportier appeal, but the thing corners like an elephant, and it appears its lack of balance contributes to this. A 5 series is fun to drive, a GS, well, isn't.
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Originally Posted by CHIS350
They wanted to give it a sportier appeal, but the thing corners like an elephant, and it appears its lack of balance contributes to this. A 5 series is fun to drive, a GS, well, isn't.
Whaaaaa?????

GS not fun to drive? You ever driven a 430?

Anyway, this thread is about ES350. Its faster, cheaper, more reliable and luxorious than 525 and 530.
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Originally Posted by Och
Whaaaaa?????

GS not fun to drive? You ever driven a 430?

Anyway, this thread is about ES350. Its faster, cheaper, more reliable and luxorious than 525 and 530.
The ES350 is "quicker" from 0-60, but the 530 will be "faster" because it has a higher speed-limiter I believe.

And definitely sure, given the car to the same driver with certain degree of driving skill, the 530 and even the 520 will be faster and quicker in the mountain roads, and stops quicker as well.

I lost track on what CHIS350 is trying to say.
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Originally Posted by CHIS350
That is not acceptable for a car that wants to compete with the 5 series
You're thinking about WEIGHT distribution, not wheel power, right?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
You're thinking about WEIGHT distribution, not wheel power, right?
I don't know what CHIS350 is thinking. But if it's 30:70 "Rear" bias, it should be really FUN to drive (think about the Porsche 911 with the engine hanging farther back)
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